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Title: identification please ID = Westmoreland #550 Line, "High Hob"
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 02:09:14 PM
Bought this old pressed glass flashed in gold with strawberry/diamond points and can't seem to find who made it and what the pattern might be.  I was told these dated back to the 1915s, but not sure.  Any help would be appreciated.

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On a second note, could anyone on the board tell me why it's so hard to log in?  I tried to post this last night but was not able to.  Do you have certain times that you're overwhelmed with users?  I think the time was approximately 2:30 am your time and there was only 1 member signed on and 2 guests.   Thanks for any info you can share on this.

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Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: pamela on February 10, 2006, 03:49:42 PM
what a breathtaking ensemble Nancy! Congratulations  :D
Looks French to me, but no idea of maker so far I'm afraid.
Baccarat?
Title: identification please
Post by: pamela on February 10, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
...and imho could be well earlier than 1915 - looking at the handles

which colour when blacklit - slightly green?
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 04:45:10 PM
Yes, it blacklights slightly green with the clear glass.  The gold flashing really lights up florescent green, is that weird?
Title: Re: identification please
Post by: Bernard C on February 10, 2006, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: "Nancy128"
... could anyone on the board tell me why it's so hard to log in? ...

Nancy — You often have to log in twice, a peculiar quirk of this php bulletin board.

Love your suite of glass.   I've not seen it before, so it is almost certainly not British unless it was made solely for export.    The handles are similar to Davidson's Chippendale, but their use was fairly widespread.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 07:14:21 PM
The handles are what made me look at this set twice.  I thought I could identify it quickly with the books that I have at home, but no.  I can't find a handle match.  Davidson's Chippendale.....I'll have to look that up.

As to the logging in, this time I had no problems to post this message.  But this morning I did.  But I found if I rebooted my computer I was able to log in again this morning.  I thought it might of been my computer.

Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: Anne on February 10, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
Looking at the handles I'd suspect a US maker rather than European. Just my gut feel. Davidson used them in Chippendale but that would be later. Pieces with the same shape handles appear in the Central Glass and US Glass catalogues, pre-dating Davidson making Chippendale. Perhaps another of our stateside members may be able to help?

By the way, Nancy, I think it's wonderful!  8)
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 07:27:54 PM
Thanks Anne, I think they're wonderful too.  My first thought was US Glass but my catalogs/books only date back to the 40's.  I couldn't find a match with the handles or the pattern in those books.  Yes, I need help my American brothers and sisters!!!!

I just finished up cleaning them and they really have an interesting shine to them.  The clear glass almost iridizes in the light, could it possibly be carnival?  The gold flashing has ripples and swirls, does this typically happen when flashing?  It's a mystery to me.
Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2006, 07:41:14 PM
It is Westmoreland's #550 Line.

Glen
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2006, 07:44:11 PM
I forgot to say it is also known as "High Hob".

Glen  :lol:

A PS now that I have read the above comments - it isn't Carnival. And btw I'm in England  :lol:
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 07:48:03 PM
You're the BEST, Glen.  Thank you.  Can you date this, since it doesn't have a signed mark?
Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2006, 07:54:03 PM
Hi Nancy - I believe it was introduced around 1907 and produced through to the early 1920s or thereabouts (possibly as late as 1927). I understand a few items in the line were re-issued in Carnival and opalescent glass in the 1970s - for Gary Levi (Levay Glass).

Your fabulous set is undoubtedly from around the date you suggested in your first post. Congratulations on such a superb set of glass.

Glen
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 08:02:25 PM
Glen, my favorite BROTHER from England.....what can I say.  Thank you thank you, thank you.  Now I think its time for celebration, cheers everyone.
Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2006, 08:06:07 PM
OOOOO Nancy. I'm a girl. I really need to have something on my sign-off, don't I? Like Max does (she's a girl too  :lol: ) My full name is longer and I never use it, I prefer the shortened version (in fact it's the only name I answer to  :shock: ).

Glen (http://www.smileys.ws/smls/customed/00000066.gif)
ps I'm a bit blonder than that, but I admit to a little help from my "friend" L'Oreal  :oops:
Title: identification please
Post by: Nancy128 on February 10, 2006, 08:11:27 PM
Well, well.........my FAVORITE SISTER, Glen, my appologies.  I should of known from your tenacity in finding out this identification.  You truly are my BEST friend today.   :wink:
Nancy
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 10, 2006, 08:21:36 PM
Nancy, I'm delighted to have been able to help. I love a good mystery and even better..........solving it!

Roses for you to celebrate today.

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Glen
Title: identification please
Post by: Glen on February 11, 2006, 10:03:02 AM
Incidentally, in the thread above there was a short discussion about the distinctive shape of the handles. Very "Chippendale-esque"! Certainly various makers used that distinctive squared off shape - but the most unusual example of it that I have seen is on a Riihimaki (Finland) sugar and creamer set that was made around late 1920-1930. An even more unusual characteristic of this particular set is that the pattern on the body of the items is a fine raised stipple and a floral motif, very much in the style of some Imperial (USA) glass patterns.

I'll try and post a photo sometime. It's shown in our third book on page 81 and we named it "Double Starflower".

Glen