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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: hunnydu2 on May 13, 2010, 10:29:55 PM
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Hello..I was directed to these board for help IDing the maker..anyone?
Thanks,
Deb
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Hi, and Welcome to the Board. :hiclp:
I will bump this to see if anyone can help you with your first post...the Fish look nice. Can you post the measurements too. Thanks
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Thanks..they are approx 12" long
Deb
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Look a bit like FM Rønneby (Sweden), hard to tell from these photos tho.
The first link is broken
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it tend to agree with Alexander,
Cenedese made a similar design but I don't think yours are the same.
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I searched for some information online, but couldn't find anything useful. My first inclination was that the fish were FM Konstglas. The line of the glass of the head and the richness of the glass made me think of them. I've learned that often things that look like they might be Cenedese are FMK. There is much similarity in some of the work of the two companies.
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Are we talking about technique/design? ... Or are we talking about collectability???
These fish were made by master glassblowers from Murano, trained in the Murano technique.
My reply is as follows:
yes, this is Murano
made by Marcolin / FM Ronneby, Sweden.
The fish, B-15, were made in the 1960's, in different sizes: 30, 25, 20 and 13 cm
early 1970's they were available only in 22 cm
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. I've learned that often things that look like they might be Cenedese are FMK. There is much similarity in some of the work of the two companies.
thats an interesting observation Anita, its never accured to me before,, thanks :chky:
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I often see their animals and fish misidentified as Cenedese. Their fish pop up frequently on eBay with an Antonio Da Ros attribution. Ingela helped me with a muskox that was FM Ronneby. I thought maybe it was a good quality Cenedese. I was not surprised when I learned what it was, because the base was more highly polished than is typical for Cenedese.
One thing I find difficult is the following the history of the Marcolin companies -- mergers and acquisitions. From what Ingela wrote, these fish are FM Ronneby, instead of FM Konstglas Ronneby. I need to learn the history better. For now I'm pleased to have gotten to the point of identifying some of the glass made by the Marcolin companies.
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One thing I find difficult is the following the history of the Marcolin companies -- mergers and acquisitions. From what Ingela wrote, these fish are FM Ronneby, instead of FM Konstglas Ronneby. I need to learn the history better. For now I'm pleased to have gotten to the point of identifying some of the glass made by the Marcolin companies.
Sorry about the confusion, we are a bit lazy here, we seldom say FM Konstglas Ronneby ...... It's easier to say it's FM, or FM Ronneby, or Marcolin ... instead of FM Konstglas Ronneby. A lot of people in Sweden just say that it's Ronneby, and seldom use Marcolin. So I should have said that the fish are FM Konstglas Ronneby.
By the way, your FMK was new to me! ;D
And I found the B-15 fish on our Swedish forum, in the FM thread:
http://precisensan.com/antikforum/showpost.php?p=77986&postcount=688
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[...By the way, your FMK was new to me! ;D
That was my own bit of laziness. I'd said the name once or twice, so the initials seemed a good way to save monotony. It's one of the things that come with living in the USA. We like using initials for everything. :)
I believe we can move this thread to Scandinavian glass with a definite FMK attribution.
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I often see their animals and fish misidentified as Cenedese. Their fish pop up frequently on eBay with an Antonio Da Ros attribution. Ingela helped me with a muskox that was FM Ronneby. I thought maybe it was a good quality Cenedese. I was not surprised when I learned what it was, because the base was more highly polished than is typical for Cenedese.
That was a good example of collectability versus good quality.
People invest in a well known name/designer/location (for instance probably Cenedese/Murano) - one price level.
Confirmed FM Konstglas Ronneby - price level substantially lower
It was the same muskox, the same good quality but very few have heard of FM Konstglas Ronneby.
Unsigned Murano is rated higher!
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People invest in a well known name/designer/location (for instance probably Cenedese/Murano) - one price level.
Confirmed FM Konstglas Ronneby - price level substantially lower
It was the same muskox, the same good quality but very few have heard of FM Konstglas Ronneby.
Unsigned Murano is rated higher!
In the fickle word of glass collecting, this may not be the case next week. Popularity of different companies rise and fall. I think the better quality Ronneby glass is a good investment. The execution is superb. The glass has fluid lines that are elegant. It was the fluidity of the lines around the face that made me suspect these fish were FMK.
IMO, the thing that hurts the secondary market for FMK are the small trinkets that have unappealing (to me) designs. But then every company has these bread and butter pieces. With the poor designs being attributed to them and the better designs being called Murano, it can be tough to raise people's opinions. But it is okay for collectors because they don't have to pay as much.
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Wow. another intriguing run of discussion - I've learnt a lot in a short time......This board is just brilliant!! :thup: thanks steph.
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Some lovely fish on eBay! ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/CENEDESE-MURANO-ART-GLASS-FISH-CONTROL-BUBBLES-/330434928490?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef74df6a
http://cgi.ebay.com/CENEDESE-MURANO-ART-GLASS-FISH-CONTROL-BUBBLES-B-/330434929597?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef74e3bd
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One thing I find difficult is the following the history of the Marcolin companies -- mergers and acquisitions. From what Ingela wrote, these fish are FM Ronneby, instead of FM Konstglas Ronneby. I need to learn the history better. For now I'm pleased to have gotten to the point of identifying some of the glass made by the Marcolin companies.
I meant to get back to you about this ..... companies, mergers and acquisitions. I'm not quite sure what you mean?
There have been no mergers or acquisitions!