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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Baked_Beans on May 25, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
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I bought this on ebay and it was listed under date-lined studio glass and the seller said the previous owner had bought it in London during the 1960's.
To me it looks early Mdina , with lots of bubbles and a deep blue.
The rim has a bevelled edge and it looks as if it was ground and polished.
The base has a slightly tooled foot all the way around.
Could the bevelled edge be restoration or was it done to grind out a burst surface bubble or just to finish it off ?
If it was bought in London in the 1960's could it possibly be a pre-Mdina, Michael Harris piece...this latter theory is highly unlikely IMHO ....I'm just trowing it in as a possible !
Has anyone seen this bowl listed on e-bay before ? The seller was from Scotland.
It's quite a small bowl , only 8cm tall with a 12.5 cm diameter at the rim.
Please be as critical as possible :o Thanks very much for looking !!
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More pics.....
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last one....
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WMF Ikora (I am rather sure :) )
Checked the Ikora book, there is a bowl in the 1928 catalogue (PN 1/1833, 13 cm diameter), which seems to have the same decor as yours...
Nice find!
Michael
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Well , you could knock me down with a feather :o I had convinced myself it was Mdina !!! I had no idea what-so-ever ! Ahhhh.....
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I'm far more convinced by WMF, I really don't think it's Mdina. :)
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So Michael Harris just copied WMF then ! I didn't have a clue ?! ::)
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I don't know if Michael Harris was aware of WMF or not! :)
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That makes two of us then if he wasn't ! ::)
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Not the first time a bit of WMF was thought to be Mdina, take a look at this bit: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,30527.0.html
John
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That is a stunning vase John , with a great Art Deco look . I'm going to have to get a book from the library on WMF . This little bowl has opened up a whole new area of interest for me thanks to you guys ! :D I will see if I can check the blue under UV light (lost the pen again) to see if it goes green !
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I've tested it under UV light and there is no reaction from the blue or any other part of the bowl ....are the bubbles a feature of WMF glass ?
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Yes, those sivler-chloride bubbles are very distinctive :)
>> Link 1 (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/35824-wmf-ikora-technique-bowl-ca-1927)
>> Link 2 (http://www.glaskilian.de/Kleine-Vase-WMF-IKORA-Glas.144+B6YmFja1BJRD0xNDQmcHJvZHVjdElEPTE5NDc5JnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTE0NCZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)
Michael
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Thanks for the links Michael , such lovely pieces !
It was the non-silver chloride bubbles that I'm a bit worried about....and the fact that the blue doesn't react under UV as did the Art Deco vase. I'm not really doubting that it is WMF just want to be doubly sure (if that's at all possible )!
I really appreciate all the comments that have been made on this and for your ID Michael !
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Yes, air bubbles are quite usual in Ikora glass.
>> Here is my blue vase (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52704.msg299204.html#msg299204) shown in the 1928 catalogue as well, with lots of bubbles of all sizes...
If you message me your e-mail adress (click the small envelope to the left), I can send you a picture of the catalogue page in the Ikora book, showing your bowl.
That other Art Deco vase is a far more complex piece, so I wouldn't expect every blue Ikora piece to glow under UV.
Michael
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Oh my gosh ! Even more stunning pieces .....makes my little bowl look bland !! ;)
I've just become a WMF convert !
That is very kind of you Michael , I will send you my email address , you are a star !!
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I wish to express my huge thanks to you Michael for sending me the images of the bowl from the Ikora cat.. It's the exact same shape (with a bevelled rim and small foot).
So delighted to discover that this is an early piece and I can only conclude that Michael Harris must have been greatly influenced by this design (if indeed he knew about it !) .
I hope this example can help others to distinguish the difference between Ikora and Mdina.
Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and also to the GMB !
Cheers, Mike.
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I still think it's a moot point about whether or not MH knew of these pieces by WMF.
It's not as if they're common. :)