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Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Nancy128 on July 30, 2006, 05:34:48 AM
Found this today, no markings, does not floresce with a blacklight, thought it looked like Fenton but know that the base should be stamped.  So any ideas to pattern and who the heck made this?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2689
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2688
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2687
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2686

Thanks,
Nancy
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Glen on July 30, 2006, 08:11:27 AM
I can tell you the pattern/s and original maker, as it was made by Dugan in Carnival Glass.

inside = Question Marks
exterior = Georgia Belle
foot = Puzzle

What I am not sure of is who made your piece. I know many of the old Dugan moulds were put into production by L G Wright, but I cannot tell you if this item was made by them or not. Hopefully someone else will be able to confirm maker and d.o.p.

Hope this helps a little
Glen
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Connie on July 30, 2006, 08:15:46 AM
Hi Nancy -

Your piece is Dugan Glass Question Marks.  It is well  known carnival glass pattern so I am sure Glen can help you with the details.

I think you have one of the 3-in-1 pattern pieces.  It is Question Marks on the inside, Georgia Belle on the outside with Puzzle pattern on the foot.

I think the opalescent pieces are far less common than the carnival glass ones.

Nice find!
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Connie on July 30, 2006, 08:18:38 AM
Oops, Glen  - We were posting at the same time.   :lol:


Edwards and Carwile in their Opalescent book indicate that the opalescent pieces were produced by Dugan and are less common than the carnival pieces.

I am trying to find another source to confirm because we all know about Edward's books  :roll:
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Glen on July 30, 2006, 08:42:44 AM
:lol: Connie!

I couldn't see the opal - I think it could be my monitor, as I find things are coming up much darker on this screen than on the machine DH uses.

I had a quick look through Heacock/Measell's Dugan book, but didn't spot it in opal. I'll check further. It could certainly be an original old Dugan item.

Shall we vote for that unless we find anything firm to the contrary  :D

Glen
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Connie on July 30, 2006, 08:50:56 AM
Glen -

I was using the same book trying to confirm also but could only find info on the pattern in carnival glass which is why it took me so long to post the first time after reading the initial question :lol

I also looked in Heacock's Book II Opalescent Glass from A to Z edition 2 but that pattern is not listed  :?
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Nancy128 on July 30, 2006, 12:28:24 PM
Thanks Glen and Connie.  It just simply amazes me on how fast everyone is in spotting glass.  When I picked this up yesterday at a yard sale, I said to myself, I bet Glen would know what this is.  But I did try to do it myself before I just gave up.  3-in-1 patterns is pretty advance for me but not for you and Connie!!!!!  Thanks again.
Nancy
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Nancy128 on July 31, 2006, 06:49:22 PM
So is the consensus on this compote is new and LG Wright probably was the culprit?
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Connie on July 31, 2006, 10:00:07 PM
No, Nancy.  I am  saying that I think it is an original Dugan piece but can't confirm it.

I am afraid that I am not much help with L.G. Wright pieces.  It is not a company that I have a reference book on or have studied because I do not purposefully buy pieces made by them.

But between you and vintagerose it looks like I may have to buy the darn book  :lol:

Any excuse is a good excuse to buy another reference book  :wink:
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Connie on July 31, 2006, 10:43:55 PM
No, no, no Nancy  :D  :D  :D

I wasn't complaining!  I was making a joke.  L.G. Wright is just not a company that I have researched and therefore my knowledge is lacking in that area.  

I was using your questions and vintagerose's as an excuse to buy another book  :lol:  8)

It is a coincidence that both of you had pieces that LG Wright had some possible involvement.
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Nancy128 on July 31, 2006, 10:51:10 PM
Okay, I feel much better.  Sometimes the written word doesn't sound the same when you read it.  

I went onto the L.G Wright site today and can't find anything about this compote.  I also looked at severval sites on Dugan and still nothing that could help.  Northwood might be my next stop on the internet highway.  

Thanks for the fast reply, Connie!! :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Glen on August 01, 2006, 07:18:40 AM
The pattern - or should I say the combined trio of patterns - was used by Dugan at his Indiana, PA plant, where it was made in Carnival Glass.

As I noted above, many of the Dugan moulds were obtained by L.G. Wright - but I am not aware of it being made by them in this trio combination. If they were to have made it (or more correctly, have had it made for them) they would have had to have the correct match of mould and plunger for these three patterns.

I agree with Connie - and although I do have the L G Wright book, I can't find the item in it.

On the evidence presented, it seems most likely that the maker of your item was Dugan. Beyond that it is impossible to say, based on the information that I have available.

Glen
Title: Probably New Hopefully Old
Post by: Nancy128 on August 01, 2006, 12:35:18 PM
Thank you so much for your thoughts and professional opinion.  I truly appreciate it Glen. :D  :D  :D
Nancy