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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: surfersam on May 02, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
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Hi,
I have two vases which I am stumped over!
Can anyone help please!
The first vase is a very heavy, 2.5kilos, 10" tall by 6.5" patterned design and looks amazing. So many curves in the right places... I sort of thinking that it may be sklo union but cannot find the factory or designer.
The second is a very unusual footed vase, heavy at 750g, 8" tall by 5.1/4" at the widest point, catches the eye, lots of curves.
If anyone can point me in the right direction, that would be fantastic
Thanks
Paul
My photos really do not do these pieces any justice!!!!
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I forgot the the one is the stamped piece.
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The second one is by Josef Inwald, circa 1930s (I have an image of it shown in a 1938 catalog) - pattern number 9045. In Carnival Glass I have given it the name "Circle Squared". Shown in marigold Carnival in "Carnival Glass The Magic & The Mystery 2" p 154.
I know the first one as well, but I don't have time right now to verify. I think it's Libochovice but someone else will confirm if I don't get back in time.
Glen
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Hi and welcome to the board Paul :)
Your first one is Libochovice, as Glen mentioned, # 3032 of their catalogue before 1958, see Marcus' book CD here: http://www.sklounion.com/
This one came in three heights, i.e. 175 200 and 255 mms
nice one!
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Hi Again,
Thank you so much for how quick you guys resolved these vases, Its taken me weeks and no luck. So thank you again and I will be buying that book at some point in the near future!
I am just learning and all the help I can get would be amazing.
Thanks again.
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You're always welcome Paul - it would be great (and sometimes helpful) to know where you live - would you please adjust your profile accordingly? :thup:
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hi again,
Thanks for the info pamela. I still can not find anything on J inwald!
paul
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Let we distinguish Joseph Inwald and Josef Inwald A.G. (company) please.
Joseph Inwald ( *28.1. 1837 Chýška near Havlíčkův Brod)
Joseph Inwald according to old documents had declared Czech nationality, Jewish religion. He finished studies (physics, math, mechanical engineering) at Prague's Polytechnical University in 1859. In 1862 he bought together with his partner Simon Brandeis glass rafinerie (glass cutting) in Havlickuv Brod (30 employees), in 1874 glass rafinerie in Schützendorf (now Dobronin) (300 employees). In 1876-77 he built his own factory in Prague - Zlichov (100+ empl). In 1893 Inwald bought glasswork in Podebrady (since 1895 200 employees), in 1901 glasswork in Radnice (160 empl).
In 1901 - 3 Inwald built glass factory in Grosspriessen a. E.(Velke Brezno) (200 empl), in 1903 he opened glasswork in Wien - Floridsdorf (200 empl). In the same year Inwald moved company headquater from Prague to Wien (Mariahilfestrasse 103). Finaly in 1905 he bouht old steelworks in Teplitz (Teplice) and in 1906 he opened glassfactory Rudolfshütte (Rudolfova hut) (300 empl). Josef Inwald was very succesfull man, he has enobled by Kaiser Franz Joseph I in 1901 (Edler von Waldtreu). He was involved also in politic. In 1906 Inwald owned 6 factories with more than 2000 emplyoees. He died 19.5. 1906 in Wien.
After Joseph Inwald die the company Joseph Inwald A.G. has been grouded by his two sons - Rudolf Inwald (*18.10. 1864) and JUDr. Oskar Inwald.
Jindrich
www.webareal./cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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A little bit of history about Inwald, with particular reference to the Jacobean (Lord / Milord) pattern can also be seen on my old website here:
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Jacob2.html
Lots more on Inwald on my old website as well as my books. (Our new website is "under construction" and being added to when time allows).
Jindrich, I feel that it has been a huge achievement to actually attribute many pieces of previously unknown glass to Inwald. I have also researched and written about the history of Inwald. However, I am comfortable (and will continue) to attribute in a general way (in particular when I refer to Inwald's iridised glass) as "Inwald".
Glen
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Great site Glen,
I found brief informatiion about Inwald in publication Mirolsav Grisa - Rudolfova hut v Dubí (ISBN 80-86971-15-5) published in 2006 by Avirunion. This publication is hard to find at was published in Czech only (with English and German brief summary).
It seems that major and possibly one and only (but I have not any serious proof for the meantime) in Inwald A.G. was Mr. Rudolph Schrötter, the father of Czechoslovakian pressed glass. To attribute piece to Inwald A.G. is great step forward, but I would like to see always and forever to have bounded collection "Lord" for example rather with name of Rudolf Schrötter than with Inwald to avoid misunderstanding.
Inwald A.G. was factory, Schötter designer.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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I have briefly read your pages:
This is completely missunderstanding:
"Above is an extract from a Markhbeinn catalog from the early 1930s (courtesy Dieter Neumann and Siegmar Gieselberger). The pattern shown in the vases on the top row and the two items on the left of the bottom row, was called AIGLON. Translated it means EAGLET - but let's stay with the evocative French version. The items were marketed in France by Markhbeinn (a wholesaler) but they were made by the renowned Czech glass maker, Josef Inwald."
Josef Inwald was not glass maker but succesful enterpriser and in 30ties he was already 20 years dead. Josef Inwald A.G was corporation, before WWI managed by JUDr Oskar Inwald from Wien. After WWI Czech bank capital has got the majority in Josef Inwald A.G. corporation.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
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The pages on my old website are rather old now - when they were first written they were "groundbreaking". I can not make any changes to those pages as they are no longer "live" (geocities is no longer in business). At the time of writing the page on the Jacobean pattern we had no knowledge of Schrotter. However, when our recent book ("Carnival Glass The Magic & The Mystery 2) was written (published in late 2008) we wrote extensively about Rudolf Schrotter in the book.
My field of writing and research is primarily Carnival Glass (pressed, iridised glass). I object in the strongest possible terms to your accusation that my comment (as shown in your post above) "is a complete misunderstanding". I said that the items were made by Josef Inwald. That is a widely used convention (certainly in Carnival Glass circles). For example, we say that pieces are made by Harry Northwood. It's a figure of speech. We don't mean to imply that Harry Northwood or Josef Inwald actually rolled up their sleeves, gathered the hot glass, pressed it, iridised it and placed it carefully on the lehr.
I have been writing on the GMB for many, many years. I have (I hope) helped many people during those years. I have always been as thorough as possible in my very extensive research and my writing - and I always give detailed, historical facts where possible. I wrote on this thread in good faith because I was trying to help and to give information. I think this is the last time I shall be writing here.
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Hi Glen,
I did not want to hurt you and I have no doubts that your knowledge is excellent. The problem is possibly in my English and Czech understanding of terminology.
When we use the name Josef Inwald it is always ment the person. When the company is ment - we speak about Inwald factory or Inwald A.G.
Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo