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Title: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Franlow on August 26, 2011, 07:08:52 AM
http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/Franlow/?action=view&current=0096.jpg I'm not sure if I managed to post before as the photo would not upload :(
Any help identifying this would be good.Is it Powell?
Fran x
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Ivo on August 26, 2011, 07:14:34 AM
Powell or Walsh vaseline of the nicest kind - but what is it - a lamp shade?
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Franlow on August 26, 2011, 07:17:57 AM
Hi there,
It's a vase, sort of like a top hat with a pulled in rim. The opal is trailed over the top & it sits on 6 swirls which surround a polished pontil. I sawit from halfway across the field at a bootfair on Weds - you should have seen me move, elbows sharpened. The woman only wanted £5 for 3 items, so this cost the princely sum of £1.66 ^-^
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 26, 2011, 07:42:08 AM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Very nice but wouldn't like to say who. Other makers of opalescent vaseline glass are available
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Franlow on August 27, 2011, 10:59:40 AM
Thanks guys, I thought Walsh always etched their pieces?
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 28, 2011, 04:49:56 PM
No Walsh didn't always mark their glass; not one piece of my small collection is
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Franlow on August 28, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
Well I never. I only own 1 piece & it is signed. Are there any good books you could recommend please? I usually buy Murano, so this is all double dutch to me :)
Fran
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: mrvaselineglass on September 02, 2011, 11:42:09 AM
I own several pieces of John Walsh Walsh in vaseline/uranium opalescent, and not one of mine are marked.  I do have a later piece (1930's) that is not opalescent, and it has a faint etch mark on the bottom.  I don't think the early stuff was marked for the most part.  I have seen photos of a couple of pieces that had an original factory Rd. number hand-scribed on the underside of the piece.  They are ultra-rare though. 

I agree with the other posting......If I had only Powell or JWW to choose from, I would go with JWW, but there are lots and lots of other makers who also made patterned vaseline opalescent blown ware.  (p.s.  I like this vase a lot!)

Mr. Vaseline Glass
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 02, 2011, 12:49:33 PM
I no longer have this little uranium Walsh glass, but it was marked.
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Patricia on September 03, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
Book:
The Glass of John Walsh Walsh  1850-1951 by Eric Reynolds.

The first part is history and pictures, the second part is all the available factory pattern books.
I got mine from Broadfield House Glass Museum for 20 pounds.

(Just Dutch) Patricia
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Paul S. on September 03, 2011, 07:45:30 PM
sorry Sue, appreciate your mark is there, but too feint to see with certainty, and might benefit from a black background and the use of antiquerose's magnifying glass. :)   Would agree with Patricia re Reynolds book which is most definitely worth having if your area includes JWW material  -  my only personal gripe would be that reproductions of the patterns are not the best of quality images and most of the writing is at best difficult to read  -  but I guess better to have than not.     I have three pieces only, two of which are marked - one being the little Pompeian u. posy vase on plate 21 and a nice pair of drinking glasses that I picked up this morning, and as yet am unable to locate in the patterns.    I saw the posy vase again this morning, and although I spent ages looking couldn't find a mark.    My third is a large Pompeian bowl which defies me to find a mark, and although you can't make assumptions remotely from three pieces, just maybe (I'm thinking) the earlier material is more poorly back stamped. :)     The mark shown is quoted by Reynolds as  'c.1930  -  1951', but as is common with many of the glass backstamps, does appear in various publications.
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 04, 2011, 11:13:30 AM
 :pb:
It's on a lumpy bit of the base, the stem is right behind it, I couldn't get a background behind the mark.
(it was a miracle I managed to "catch" it at all, Paul  :-* ) - however, the script is the same as the "Walsh" bit on your far superior image, but there's no "england" bit.
I don't have the glass any more to try to do it again.
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Paul S. on September 04, 2011, 04:14:05 PM
you have my sympathy Sue, in that you no longer have that beautiful liqueur glass :-* - I could never have parted with it.     JWW glassware is arguably the least common that I see   -  maybe better quality glass such as Walsh doesn't circulate anything like Webb/Stuart/E&L  -  but I'm guessing really  -  perhaps the answer really is that Webb and Stuart material was knocked out in far great quantity, and so pops up more often.   Anyway, just because you can't take decent pics. there's no reason to give us Sassenach's a lower case 'e' :P       However, do still practise against a dark background, and remember the magnifying glass :)
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: johnphilip on September 04, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
Wash Vesta lighting panels on ebay ends in a couple of hours item 110736461657 interesting if they are Kosher . Not mine .
Although i do have a Walsh sherry set on at the moment and more to come this week , pure coincidence . :-[
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Paul S. on September 04, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
Dear Moderator - is this member allowed free advertising, or should he be made to pay :24: :24: :24:         signed....'querulous of Surrey' (UK)
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
Dear Moderator - is this member allowed free advertising, or should he be made to pay :24: :24: :24:       

Give the man a break................  he could have mentioned .

A WEDGWOOD AESTHETIC JUG DESIGN BY CHRISTOPHER DRESSER
SIGNED JOHN WALSH WALSH DECANTER& 6 GLASSES KENILWORTH
STUART WOODCHESTER BOWL - NINE INTAGLIO CUT LEAVES
 SIGNED IRIDESCENT PAPERWEIGHT BY CARIN VON DREHLE/ RARE
 COMIC - WMF GLASS & SILVER PLATE WINE BOTTLE COASTERS

See you at the fair John.

Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: johnphilip on September 05, 2011, 09:52:37 AM
Paul i pay with all the stick i get from Rosie and now your goodself , i did believe it may be of educational interest though . Rosie hasnt rollocked me yet for not putting the L in Walsh . :cry: :-[ :spls: :ooh: PS Patrick are you after a free drink or is it the Hogan lager jug and glass with Amber stem , by any chance ? Thanks anyway .
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Paul S. on September 05, 2011, 10:24:26 AM
Like yourself jp, I spend too much time joking  -  I would never wish you anything other than success with your sales :).     However, Patrick's passing reference to the Walsh 'Kenilworth' pattern has brought something to my attention which I will post, separately, under British Glass  -  and would be more than grateful if you are able to spare a moment to look at.      Will post within the next hour.    thanks.
You're so right about Rosie, she is a real ta(r)tar, she is always egging us young lads on, and we end up getting the blame. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
Patrick are you after a free drink or is it the Hogan lager jug and glass with Amber stem ,]

Yes please John...............  Bring it to the fair and maybe we can do a deal !  But we must not get caught dealing at the WF table  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2011, 01:23:16 PM
My reply all went t..s up there.

Yes please John...............  Bring it to the fair and maybe we can do a deal !  But we must not get caught dealing at the WF table  :D :D :D

Regards,
          Patrick. :sun: :sun: :sun:
Title: Re: Identification help with vaseline glass please
Post by: johnphilip on September 05, 2011, 01:38:15 PM
I dont go near the Whitefriars stand too many bad ladies .