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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: chuggy on June 19, 2005, 11:18:34 AM
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Just bought this little piece at the local car boot, and it's something I know nothing about. Any clues to age and where it may have been made greatly appreciated.
Paul
http://tinypic.com/65bj1x
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:D It's not Davidson, I don't think. Bagley is ringing bells with me. It should have a flower-frog inside. They come in several sizes, and colours. I think you even get bigger ones with actual frogs at the feet. They're lovely. :D
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At last! This one I know! :roll: I think it's the Sowerby 'Lily' vase. They come with petals turned up, down, and as bowls.
I've got one of the frog bowls, with frogs for feet and bulrush 'petals' round the top, in pale blue :D http://tinypic.com/65mmpd
If anyone ever comes across an apropriate flower frog and centrepiece for it, I'd be really interested to get hold of them! :shock: :D
Leni
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Thanks Sue ...and a quick search on Bagley ...not the same size as yours but others in the range called "Equinox"
Wayne has some pictured here http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/bagley_glass/patterns/bagleyglass_equinox.htm
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Thanks folks
I must admit it does look very similar to the Sowerby lily bowl with upturned petals thats on e-bay so I reckon you've got it Leni.
First bit of uranium I've ever bought though I used to have a lot od lemon pearline a few years back.
Cheers
Paul
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:D Hi Paul, yours is the Sowerby, not the Bagley. Well done Leni. :D. Thanks for putting me straight on the Bagley, Peter, I wasn't thinking of that pattern, though, just couldn't remember the correct maker of this one. :oops:
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Hi,Ive been wanting to help on here for quite a while and now I am happy to have a go.The vase is Sowerby 1933 "Iris" it comes in two sizes and has a black plinth with flower holder (not a frog with holes in the top)It is in the Sowerby gateshead book by Simon Cottle.Made in Flint,Amber,Green,Rosalin and powder blue.P.S I am lucky enough to own one myself!Happy to help.Kay.
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Thanks to everyone, particularly Kay and Leni for putting me right on this. I'm chuffed to bits for my £2 worth, especially knowing what it is. Might well be the first of many.
Paul
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Hello Kay, Nice to meet you. Great to find another pressed glass fan! :D
Kay, can you tell me what figure might have stood in the centre of my 'Frog and Bullrush' bowl? I would really like to get one, but not sure what I should look for. I would think a fish would be appropriate, but you never know with Sowerby :roll: Or perhaps *you* do? :wink:
Also, can you tell me the difference between 'Lily' and 'Iris'? I've seen both names used indiscriminately! :roll:
Leni
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Please excuse me "butting-in" - in the Frog and Bullrush bowl, a small 3" flower block was used. The flower holder in the centre of the Frog & Bullrush vase was a simple "Star" holder. It has 8 points around a central hole. It is similar to the star holder that is also in the Lily and Iris vases/table centres. The holder was made in 3 sizes.
Lily is the points up vase - Iris is the points down.
Glen
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Thanks, Glen! :D Good to have the 'Lily/Iris' thing cleared up :lol:
Actually, I'd still rather like a fish centre-piece in my bowl. I know the 'purists' would probably shudder with horror :wink:
Bet I won't ever find one in the right colour though :roll: Who was it who made the fish centre-piece? I know Walther did one. And of course there's always the Walther mermaid & fish. I suppose she would do. But was it the right shade of ice blue? :?
Perhaps it had better stay empty :shock:
Leni
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Hi Glen and Leni.I was just about to help with the Lily/Iris etc but Glen has very kindly sorted it and quite correct too.Just to add to the Bullrushes bowl, it was available in Flint,Amber,Blue and Green it also came with a black plinth.I am lucky enough to own this one as well. :D
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Glad I was correct :shock:
I was looking at the original catalogues at the time.
BTW, I have the Frog & Bullrushes vase in "vaseline" - it's a real beauty.
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Glen, can I ask a quickie please from your catalogue.... I have the larger version of the lily vase - mine is clear glass and it stands 6" high to the top of the points (it's the upright points not the droopy ones). The question is, did these come with a flower holder and plinth as well? http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-145
Incidentally, I have two smaller versions of lily... one in ice blue and the other in pink (the pink one is flared out at the top, the ice blue one is narrower) - I've seen some of the smaller ones listed as toothpick holders rather than vases though. http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-144 and http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-143
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Anne, it gets tricky here. The Lily (points cupped out and up) was made in a 7" size and a 9" size, as well as what was described as a "posy set - 5". Each had a holder and plinth. There was also a points up Celery vase (6" and 8") in the same pattern, also with holder and plinth. I also have a tiny little miniature example.
We hope to release the second Sowerby CD-ROM very soon. All these catalogue pages, illustrations and masses more will be on it.
Glen
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Ahhh I see, thanks for the explanation Glen. Mine being the 6" would be a Celery vase then I suppose. I've not measured the smaller ones yet - they're about 3" tall from memory. I really like them - I found the big one in a charity shop window - really dirty, for £1, so pounced on it. It's washed up beautifully. :D
I really must buy your Sowerby CD's - I've been meaning to do so for a while - but I keep buying more glass!!! :roll: I'd learn about what I have already though, and know what else to look for when I'm out hunting. :wink:
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I think we are talking about Sowerbys' pattern 2505. This came in several sizes and shapes of vase as well as, if my memory is OK, a salad bowl. All colours, of course. Star-shaped holders for the vases and black plinths could all be supplied and were usually, but not necessarily, ordered complete.
Three (?) sizes of vase in three shapes and at least four colours - there we have 36 variants plus the holders and plinths. You can understand why our warehouse manager always looked a bit stressed!
Adam D
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Here are the two pictures you wanted to have a look at the Bullrushes vase and the Iris vase.I am pleased to share them with you.Kay. http://tinypic.com/686ib8.jpg
http://tinypic.com/686mv8.jpg
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Can those with images missing from the topic please add them back for reference? Many thanks. :)