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Title: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: glassplatehunter on June 18, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
i have been searching for ages for a 45th wedding anniversary plate.i have done some searching and found that Chance Glass created similar glass wedding plates but cannot find a 45th wedding anniersary plate.my nan and now late grandad was married for over 50 years and have what look like Chance glass plates for all the main wedding anniversaries since their 20th wedding anniversary(20th,25th,30th,35th,40th and soon to have 50th) all accept their 45th wedding anniversary. i would love to get hold of one as a gift for my nan and was wondering if anyone knows where i could get one?
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass Anniversary Plate
Post by: KevinH on June 18, 2012, 11:26:15 PM
Welcome to the Board,

Since you are looking specifically for Chance glass, I have amended the title of your thread and will now move it to the British & Irish Glass forum. We have one or two members with good knowledge of Chance items - including the author of a book on the subject.
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: keith on June 19, 2012, 12:16:34 AM
Hello and welcome from me also,I'll keep a look out on my travels tomorrow,you never know ;D ;D
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: Anne on June 19, 2012, 12:28:15 AM
Welcome to the board. I have a 50th anniversary one, but I've not seen a 45th anniversary. 
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pid=737
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: David E on June 19, 2012, 07:59:34 AM
Hi and welcome.

To the best of my knowledge neither Chance nor Fiesta Glass (who took over production in 1981) made a 45th anniversary plate. In fact, I'm fairly certain a 35th was never made, so I'm not sure where that one came from unless they produced a short run.

Fiesta Glass are almost certainly the makers as they started introducing these plates with ever more elaborate decoration, and it probably comes from its Jewel Glass range. This range commonly had 25th, 40th and 50th as the usual culprits, according to the scans I made of the promotional cards.

BUT, if you do find a 45th, I would be interested to learn of it!
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: petet63 on June 19, 2012, 09:08:33 AM
 You can get anything printed nowadays cups, Plates etc. A little bit of work on photoshop maybe. I have no idea if this would work but worth investigating as it sounds like it would make your Nan happy and thats worth it. : )
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 19, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
That is a beautiful idea, Pete!
However, I'll keep my eyes peeled too. I do see lots of anniversary plates around in charity shops.
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 19, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
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In fact, I'm fairly certain a 35th was never made, so I'm not sure where that one came from unless they produced a short run.

Other slumped glass manufacturers are available...
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: Anne on June 19, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
There is a general Wedding Anniversary one too, which could be adapted with the addition of suitable numbers?
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pid=741
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: petet63 on June 19, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Thats just what I had in mind. I know they do printing in all major Tesco stores. They are very reasonable. Hope it works out for you glassplatehunter. Pete.
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: David E on July 03, 2012, 04:22:18 PM
As explained I'm pretty sure that Chance or Fiesta Glass never made such a plate. I'll keep checking, but nothing in my records shows one so far.

Getting one made specially is a possibility, but ideally the enamel transfer would need to be "fired on" and I very much doubt Tesco could do this... This is where the plate is heated to about 700 deg C so that the enamels get fixed to the glass, otherwise it could rub off or be more susceptible to scratching. This could prove to be a problem - not least financially.

Chance and Fiesta would only ever produce custom trays on a minimum run of 250 pieces, but times have changed. For example, after searching on the internet I notice that vehicle sign printers will print to glass, although whether that would produce a satisfactory finish is unknown.

I imagine a gold finish is possible, although I know these were never fired on as the gilt Chance & Fiesta used is actually gold and not an enamel. Perhaps a 'gold finish' has been reformulated to a much better standard?

However, as an industrial process I can't guarantee that any company would be prepared to do all this for just a single plate.

Sourcing a blank glass plate is the other hurdle. If you wanted one with the wavy edge, then it might be an idea to look for a Chance/Fiesta plate that has just a border decoration and get a transfer made for the centre. No idea who could make a slumped blank otherwise.

So plenty of ideas - not necessarily easy, possible, or cost-effective! Anyone with other ideas?
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: Anne on July 04, 2012, 01:52:53 AM
I still think that using the generic Chance Wedding Anniversary plate and having the numbers added is probably the most feasible option.  It would be in keeping with the others in the series.
Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
Post by: David E on July 05, 2012, 04:14:31 PM
The problem here is that there probably isn't a suitable plate. Having looked through all the scans I have of the promotional cards, there are
  • Golden, Ruby, Pearl and Silver (text used, so not suitable)
  • Golden Ruby and Silver - no text, but little room for numbers
  • As above, from the 'Jewel' range, but numbers present
  • A large generic 'Wedding Anniversary' oval plate with wavy edge and floral decoration (a yellow rose) where numbers could be added

    • I'm not saying this is the definitive list, but that's all the information I have.

    35th is Coral, so I suppose a Silver or Pearl could be adapted, if there was room for the numbers. 45th is Sapphire, but no such plate exists. I suppose Blue Greco (quite scarce) or similar could be used, but that's assuming there was room for numbers.

    But what do you use for numbers? Stick-on ones would not look good. Letraset type (http://www.letraset.com/products/165-Script-Fonts/) would easily rub off, but are there gold or silver colours?
    Title: Re: can anyone help a novice? Chance Glass anniversary plate
    Post by: Anne on July 06, 2012, 12:54:26 AM
    David, did you know that the generic Wedding Anniversary plate also comes in a round version - there was one in a charity shop in Morecambe a few weeks ago. Same design as my oval one, but round and wavy edged.

    You could have the numbers painted on using metallic enamels. Letraset does come in gold for sure as I've used that in the past.