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Title: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 20, 2008, 04:21:17 PM

I know its a bit busy here, just got some super new bits, sorry im gonna make it a bit busier,
but i guarantee you will all love :love: most of it!

Here is a little fishy, the only thing wrong with him is it should have Lalique on it ,
but its not signed!

Any ideas?
Do fish go in the Zoo ? Is there an Aquarium ;D
Andy

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 20, 2008, 04:29:37 PM

He looks a bit more green under Flash :D

(He measures 4 inches long, 2 1/4 inches tall)

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Ivo on March 20, 2008, 05:55:32 PM

I've got that same beast in orange with nibbled fins and it took me 15 years asking around before I gave up. I gave up. No ID coming 4ward....

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Frank on March 20, 2008, 06:34:37 PM

Aquarium for sure, we even have a cage for the human animal :mus: , had to introduce that after the figural bottles got emptied... a safe for jewellery and a garden for food and plants. It has become a rest home for all figural glass.

Expecting a burst of population growth in the next week...

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: shandiane78 on March 20, 2008, 07:22:12 PM

Reminds me of Desna?

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 20, 2008, 08:17:38 PM

Desna sounds good, ive just googled and wow :o  some of their quite recent stuff is fantastic.
Ivo, did you rule out Desna?
Frank, are photos ok for the Zoo? need any more?
Im sure this is 1920s/30s, its got a couple of small chips to the base, nothing big enough to
remove a r lalique mark tho!
Maybe its a part of something larger? maybe its had a bit of repair to the base? and lost signature?

Ivo, have you still got piccie of your Orange one?

Cheers,
Andy

(ps im a fisherman, and its the nicest carp ive seen , i had its brother/sister in a tank a few years ago)

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Ivo on March 21, 2008, 09:15:14 AM

I don't think of Desna much, here is the goldfish with diamond eyes.

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Leni on March 21, 2008, 09:27:55 AM

Aha!  I did wonder if there had once been something in the eyes of Andy's fish!  I wondered from his picture if it might have been some sort of gilding.  Now I see Ivo's fish I understand! 

I presume they aren't really 'diamonds', Ivo?  ;)

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 21, 2008, 10:45:37 AM

Ivo,
hes lovely :clap:

Seriously, theyre not diamonds are they :o

Cheers Andy

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Ivo on March 21, 2008, 11:26:45 AM

I'd say no way but unable to locate the beast anywhere so i cannot ckeck.

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Mosquito on March 21, 2008, 08:34:28 PM

See also here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6260.0.html) for a different fish but with similar moulding & applied colour.

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Sue C on March 22, 2008, 10:19:22 AM

Although this is not any of the fish shown, i thought it might be interesting http://huailaitianyuan.en.alibaba.com/product/50223984/203616824/Crystal_Crafts/Crystal_Fish.html

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: David E on March 22, 2008, 10:19:51 AM

I've cross-linked the two GMB topics:

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6260.0.html

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 22, 2008, 11:59:52 AM

Thanks everyone,
heres a picture of a lalique Car Mascot Perch,
http://www.carmascot.com/Lalique/perch.htm

Its not the same, but i think its closer than some. Maybe another french maker?
One day Ivo ;)

Regards Andy

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: mrvaselineglass on March 22, 2008, 12:14:08 PM

The detail on the fishy in question just does not seem to be up to Lalique standards.  It has that big mold line running down the entire length of it's back.  I just can't envision Lalique putting out a product that has that apparent of mold work on it.  just my 2c.

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 22, 2008, 12:23:42 PM

Youre right of course, ive just looked through all the glass fish on ebay, theres some
ugly looking brutes on there! At least these ones are lifelike,and i think , pretty early 20thC in date.

Regards andy

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Ivo on March 22, 2008, 12:51:21 PM

while in troubled water, this one was identified as Ferjac, French from the 1930s. It took a long time before it was ID'd...

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Andy on March 22, 2008, 01:00:49 PM

Nice,
that ones Ugly but Beautiful, if that makes sense :D
Andy

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: lddlsa on March 23, 2008, 01:07:48 PM

Here are two photos of a fish I bought at the Cambridge Glass Fair a couple of years ago.
Does anyone have any idea who might have made it?  I have shown a picture of the base which is polished with no marks.
Frank let me know if you would like me to email photos to you.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/lddlsa/pirellianimals041.jpg)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/lddlsa/pirellianimals044.jpg)

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Frank on March 23, 2008, 01:36:27 PM

Yes please Lynne, also the Pirelli pegasus  ;)

Title: Re: Stunning Fish , Lalique? Carp
Post by: Frank on April 10, 2008, 12:56:57 PM

Andy,

Could you email me pics please, larger if possible and without ends cut off :-) Envelope Icon on left up to 8Mb per mail.

Include the length/height and the name for copyright, I can include a link to your web site or email seller if required.

Thanks