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Title: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 03, 2012, 02:04:07 PM
7 inches across,cotswold design in 'star' pattern box with regency pattern in white,can't find what the bear logo is,any ideas please ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 03, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Yup, got one  ;D

They are not that uncommon and crop up occasionally. They were made for some Ladies Society (can't remember which one now) based in the Midlands. The bear is the symbol for Warwickshire (which is why the cricket team is called The Bears)  ;)
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 03, 2012, 02:29:53 PM
Cross-reference to an earlier ID:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28565.msg155086.html#msg155086
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 03, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
 :o :o :o
What a peculiar thing!
I would think it would be some sort of commission, probably related to the logo.
Regency is a pretty, lacy printed pattern that (IMNSHO) clashes violently with the modernity of the strong Cotswold texture...... and the poor bear illustrated is horribly muzzled and with a bit of a tree, something you only see illustrated in things of antiquity, when such cruelty was rampant. I find it very disturbing.
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 03, 2012, 05:26:56 PM
Thanks David,
Sue,I don't mind the two patterns but can't say I'm keen on the bear logo either.
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: Carolyn Preston on October 03, 2012, 11:34:29 PM
Are we sure that's a bear. Looks more like a horse to me. And a cartoon horse at that. And certainly doesn't go with the pretty lace pattern.

Carolyn

Added after looking at it again, okay maybe the paws, rather than hoofs, but still...
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 03, 2012, 11:55:11 PM
The head is a bit horsey or is it just grizzly ? ::) ::) ;D ;D
I got it from the RSPCA shop the woman behind the counter thought it was pretty! :o :o
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 04, 2012, 08:13:07 AM
Definitely the Warwickshire bear. Here a link to the Wikipedia page on the county and you'll see the flag there with the bear and staff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: Ming on October 05, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
Hi Keith
I have been tried to flog this plate in box for 1 in table sale two weeks ago. But no taker. Wrong people????

Ming
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 05, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
Personally, I don't think it's a piece that really inspires, to be honest, except to someone interested in Chance glassware. I have also placed the caveat in the new book:

Scarcity does not necessarily equate to collectability

 ;)

Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 05, 2012, 10:43:36 AM
 ;D
Very true David.
Keith, I'd pay you 1 to keep it to yourself. ;)
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 05, 2012, 02:15:26 PM
Sue,I would have made a profit then ;D
Ming,you're charging too much! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 05, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
 :-[
I think I was addressing Ming, :-[  not you Keith, but I'd pay you to keep yours too!  ;D
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: Ming on October 06, 2012, 12:22:21 AM
I don't mind. You pay me 1 then l donate it to charity shop.
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 06, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
I'll shove 2 into Oxfam's box today then,  :) and you can both keep then far away from me.
That will save the trouble and expense of sending cash.  8)
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 06, 2012, 11:34:55 AM
Well, it ain't that bad! Not inspiring is how I classified it, but scarce and still collectable to some people. ???

Don't diss the Chance!
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 06, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
Sorry, David.  :-[
I was getting a little bit carried away with conversational theme of disparaging this particular piece. Oxfam will still get my 2 "fine".
(I still find the cruelty aspect of the image very disturbing, even if it is an official heraldic thing.  :-\)

But on a theme of boosting Chance, I lend my copy of "Chance Expressions" to the lovely lady who works in my local library - he sister has collected Chance for quite a while, but didn't know anything about it, or that there was a book even written on it.
Well - she was so impressed and delighted with the book and the chance to read it and find out about her collection, that she gave me a massive great round tin of a certain well-known brand of chocolates as a thank-you. I'd hope she's going to be ordering her own copy. ;)
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 06, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
Talking about books.when can we expect the much awaited arrival of 'Additions' ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: Ming on October 06, 2012, 04:11:12 PM
I hope we will see it before our retirement.
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 06, 2012, 04:44:17 PM
I've just edited it for the second and last time (I hope)
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 06, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Can I have mine with a signed photograph of David and Christine? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: David E on October 06, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
 ;D

I don't see any reason why not - there is one of me, Christine and Patricia pinned to my office wall, which I'm looking at right now.

It's very close. The text has all been done and I'm starting to lay it out. The delays have always been publishing other books that I am committed to, such as Patricia's (below) and Anne Wilkinson's new one, which is currently being proofed and should be in print by 30th October.
Title: Re: Chances blue 'regency' pattern??
Post by: keith on October 06, 2012, 11:43:35 PM
A Halloween edition :o ;D ;D