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Title: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 19, 2012, 05:50:21 PM
G’evening all… This is one for you perhaps Craig, KevinH and/or Dirk… Am unsure about this piece. The yellowish colour is due to bad night light here, it is more white with the colour of M.O.P. & lustre. I would say continental, but who? It was not sold to me as being Mother of Pearl, and as can be seen it has a completely smooth surface. I now completely forget what the seller thought that it was. It has been cased thickly with crystal (see last photo of its stem) and the foot has a ground & polished base rim. The top (as like most intended for metal mesh tops) has been cut after the piece had cooled, and left rough to the touch. Top diam: 4”  Foot diam: 4”  Height: 8”  Any ideas please?

Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: keith on December 19, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
Looks very much like Kralik although I've not seen one with a stem.
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 19, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
Thanks Keith... I do have the same vase as yours pictured 3rd right and others which have "orange peel" surfaces, and yes I agree that my one with stem is not typical of these vase types, as far as I am aware. It is quite large too, or should I say, large for Kralik M.O.P. ???   
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: glassobsessed on December 19, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
Perhaps not too large, I sold a large Kralik MoP rose bowl a few months ago, it was around 6" high and 10" in diameter.

Frustratingly I appear to have deleted the photos of it, while looking for an image I ran into this lot: Kralik group (http://www.rubylane.com/item/659944-JJ515/OFFERS-INVITED-Diamond-Point-Mother)

Interesting because one photo shows the design in question with other bits of Kralik MoP.

John
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 19, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
Cheers John, will check them out.
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 20, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
Glassobsessed/John... can you let me have your eMail address please? No probs if not. Many thanks. John
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: Bernard C on December 21, 2012, 04:34:29 AM
Interesting to see Mother of Pearl used in connection with this Kralik range, both capitalised and abbreviated.   I use mother of pearl uncapitalised and unabbreviated in connection with a similar range of iridescent non-airtrap fancy glass by Walsh, with the authority of Leibe/Hayhurst, Miller's Glass of the '20s & '30s, 1999, p22.   In the Walsh context, I would only capitalise it if I had evidence of Walsh use of the term.   I would never abbreviate it to MOP or MoP as unfortunately this is now standard collector terminology for airtrap, particularly in the US.

What is the term's status in respect of this Kralik range?

... and thanks.   I thought that this range was by Loetz!   You never stop learning.  ;D

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 21, 2012, 12:31:48 PM
Hi Bernard C, No confusion intended  :-\  I was simply abreviating to save space whilst typing the heading and then got carried away with it!  :)  I do take your point though and agree with it. However "airtrap" is what I deem as being "Satin" in England "Mother of Pearl" in USA. I also do not know if Kralik "Mother of Pearl" is the correct terminolgogy for their such glass and/or who coined the phrase in the first place? John
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Post by: glassobsessed on December 21, 2012, 05:58:11 PM
Here are a few Kralik examples: http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikmoparray.html some of these designs come in a variety of sizes.

The large one I sold was in what I think of as the 'crystalline' shape: http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralik-images/mop/mop8.jpg

In my experience the colour can vary between almost white and ivory, it seems to depend on the fuming - I think more iridescence results in a yellower tone.

John, you can email me by clicking on the envelope icon to the left of my posts (you will need to be signed in here to see it though).

John
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: keith on December 21, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
As said all shapes and sizes... ;D ;D
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 21, 2012, 06:35:56 PM
They're nice Keith. I had the tall vase as shown, but a nasty accident two months back put an end to it. I lost countless glass when a table gave way...  :'(   and as I dont collect glass Jig-Saw puzzles, all had to be trashed. Nothing survived.  Anyway, would you consider my footed example to be Kralik? Am still none the wiser. I may be mistaken but when I purchased the piece, I seem to recall it being suggested as being French??? Cannot think that it is though. Many thanks to you again.
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: keith on December 22, 2012, 12:59:20 AM
I'd stick with Kralik,I have around 15 pieces of this type and colour all Kralik,I'm sure Craig would agree,if he's around,watch someone prove me wrong now! ::) ;D ;D
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Post by: John Smith on December 22, 2012, 01:12:05 AM
Cheers Keith.. You're A Star  ;)  It was/is only that damned FOOT that had/has me vexed...
I'll be stiil be pondering come Boxing Day! lol   :D ;D :D
Come along now Craig, where for out thou???  ;)
Title: Re: M.O.P vase??? Id help please.
Post by: John Smith on December 22, 2012, 01:15:21 AM
'Art though' I should have said... I know just how folks can pick on the slightest of errors..  ::) :-\ ::)
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