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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: wolkenreb on December 16, 2011, 06:57:33 PM

Title: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 16, 2011, 06:57:33 PM
I am hoping to getting some information on this rather strange looking bird. The colours range from deep pink to milky white. The tail is ridged.  It sits on a clear 'frilly' base with concentric circles underneath.  About 4.5 inches long.

I would love this to be by Seguso but will be happy to be able to ID it any way.  Not the best quality pics I'm afraid - should really have waited until daylight but I'm too impatient!
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: Paul S. on December 16, 2011, 07:29:30 PM
do I detect some opalescence in the tail Nancy  -  of course it may just be my imagination. :)
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 16, 2011, 07:41:06 PM
I really don't know Paul.  I'm not clear about what opalescent is!  I know what opals look like, and I wouldn't say that there's anything opal like about the tail.  I'll take some better pics in daylight tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: Paul S. on December 16, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
you don't need to take more pix to discover the opalescence  -  hold the piece up to strong electric light (or sunlight), and if present then the glass should show the fiery sparkle which is typical of an opal gemstone.        However, I suspect it was only my imagination  -  but I thought the tail had a slight potential to look that way.   
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 16, 2011, 08:14:14 PM
Aha! So that's how you tell!  Nope, not a hint of opalescence.  Thanks Paul.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 16, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
Looks like fairly standard Murano; that base is common.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 17, 2011, 12:47:42 PM
Thanks Christine.  Standard as in mass produced?   :cry:
I suppose other Murano companies copied the work and styles of the 'masters', hence the similarities?

The reason I had hoped it was by Seguso was the similarities with this one in 20th Century Glass (which is only 'probably' by Seguso).  Base, colour and eyes all look similar.   http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/archimedeseguso_glass/archimedesegusoglass_home.htm

Oh well, I'm disappointed but at least it's Murano.

Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 17, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
Standard as in generic. Murano glass is hardly mass produced, as it's handmade. Venice is full of pigeons, therefore lots of pigeon/dove ornaments. I think Wayne is being hopeful; look at the labelled one further up and you will see the difference in quality. Yours might be the same maker as Wayne's unlabelled one but I wouldn't count on Seguso.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 17, 2011, 01:18:10 PM
I'm afraid my eye is good enough yet Christine (to be able to see the difference in quality), which is (one of the many reasons) why the GMB is such a fantastic place to learn.  Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: TxSilver on December 18, 2011, 12:17:03 AM
Nancy, I am not sure who makes these animals. I see them sometimes on eBay. I think they are Italian, maybe Murano. I have the feeling they were made in the last 10-20 years. Many of them are pretty, so they are very nice decoration for the home. Not Seguso, I'm afraid. Sorry.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 18, 2011, 12:45:35 PM
Thanks Anita. Although it's disappointing I enjoyed the possibility for a while.

You and Christine have been very helpful and I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: chriscooper on December 18, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
Similar maybe?......

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MR44cwur7V4/TbKrIxFN9AI/AAAAAAAAJ80/UAJcewIJOUM/s640/SDC14513.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eH3_LVCY95I/TbKq40SB9XI/AAAAAAAALSQ/B_aOLyNfBOY/s640/SDC14507.JPG

From an earlier thread....

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40189.msg222387.html#msg222387

Chris
Title: Re: Pink & white alabastro (?) bird on clear base with concentric circles - Seguso??
Post by: wolkenreb on December 19, 2011, 06:18:49 AM
Hi Chris.  Yes, maybe our birds were made by the same company.  They certainly share the same base and colouring.  Thanks for that and for the link to the earlier thread.  It would be nice to get a positive ID some day . . .