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Title: new type of PY fake?
Post by: RAY on April 23, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
not seen this type cane in the weight before http://goo.gl/I2Tt7 , or it it just my eyes
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: tropdevin on April 23, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
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Hi Ray. I agree it is probably a fake, and I think I have seen that dropped Y signature cane before in fakes.

Perhaps one of the board members with appropriate specialist knowledge could offer a view?

alan
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: cfosterk on April 23, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
It sold at Taylors or some other Scottish Auction House very recently.

Whilst based on a genuine Ysart design, it's clearly a fake and I've sent two messages to the seller advising him to change the description - to no avail.

I think there was a fake flower weight in the same sale.
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: cfosterk on April 23, 2012, 09:02:43 PM
The auction house did not attribute either weights to Paul Ysart - or at the very least stated "in the style of...."
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: KevinH on April 23, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
Standard "type 2" cane - small letters set level, but still yellow / orange "p" and pink "y".

See my info (http://www.btinternet.com/~kevh.glass/pages/fake-py/fake-py-weights.htm) and that in Frank's Ysart Glass pages type 1 (http://www.ysartglass.com/PaulYsart/PYfakes001.htm)  type 2 (http://www.ysartglass.com/PaulYsart/PYfakes101.htm).

In my info, at the top of the main page the four canes show three "dropped y" versions and one with level letters. As with any cane, distortions during the making will make them look slightly different, but usually all will either show the "y" as dropped or level.

Edited to remove an incorrect statement on my part.
I had suggested that all the "copies" of PY Parrot weights were not "3D", which is not true. ::)
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: KevinH on April 23, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
It is, indeed, a pity that the seller has set the title to say "Paul Ysart style" but the description states "Paul Ysart".
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: daveweight on April 24, 2012, 09:53:07 AM
Here are pictures of the type 1 cane which appeared in 1988 with the dropped Y and the type two cane of 1992 with spaced letters. The cane in the parrot weight looks quite like the type 2 to me
Dave
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: Roger H on April 24, 2012, 09:20:26 PM
Is this the sick parrot that died in the monty python sketch?    Dont know why the maker would even consider to be able to put a PY in this weight.  Looks bad enough to be a cheap chinese.
      I am sure we have all seen PY fakes that are 10 times better.  The parrot is DEAD.
      Regards Roger.
Title: Re: new type of PY fake?
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 25, 2012, 04:18:46 PM
The seller has added this to the listing:-

"On 23-Apr-12 at 23:08:09 BST, seller added the following information:

This paperweight may original or a copy, I'll leave it up to you to decide"