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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: millarart on November 16, 2011, 10:02:26 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monart-Glass-Vase-Moncrieff-Art-Glass-Collectible-Gold-Green-Yellow-Swirl-/290633595221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ab1cb955
is it just me that thinks this is way too pricey, love the vase and would love to add it to my collection just dont love the buy it now price, i did ask the seller if the price was correct incase there had been a mistake with the listing, got my reply assuring me price was correct as they had the piece appraised and they KNOW the value, now what im asking you in here is this, is it just me who thinks that their appraisal is way way off and that the seller may have been well and truly wrongly advised, the reason i ask is that there seems to have been in the past a few pieces from across the water that have had massive values put on them by their owners, i recall a bowl that may still be on in common colourway that had a buy it now price of around $3200 , am i missing something , does Monart bring these kind of prices in these countries, im sure they dont infact i know they dont but someone must think they do,(also these kind of valuations must bump up overseas owners insurance) let me know your views on this matter , just curious to see what others think, or is it just me being a misserable old scotsman whos too afraid to dig deep into his sporran ;D
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I'd be snorting at a label price of £200 Gary, which would be a bit more reasonable - but I'd expect a good discount.
Monart isn't making what it used to - and while this is lovely - it's not a particularly scarce piece.
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Far too expensive, Gary. I would have said around £300 - colour combination is great - what makes it more unusual is the whorls and pattern is around the middle of the vase which in my humble opinion would bump up the price a bit. Too pricey for me, but I like it.
Mary
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thanks Sue and Mary
i was thinking around 180 to 220 tops,
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Well over priced for what it is, the shape (MF) is one of the most commonest shapes that Monart produced, the colourway (465B) is not so common, I have seen one other example of that colour code in OJ shaped vase and that was sold 2011 for £120 at T.R. Callan auction house in Ayr.
Gary
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if 2 people want it, the price will go up, if not, then someone could get a bargain if only the seller put a realistic price on it to start wirth :24: :chky: ;D
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i had another message from the seller telling me that they have been in the auction and glass buisness since they were a kid and that they had the piece looked at and valued from a professional so they wouldnt bother asking on ysart glass site or on here as i had suggested to them for a second opinion, :help: lol
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INSURANCE VALUE !!!!!!!!!!! :girlcheer: >:D
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I think the price on this other item says it all
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hofbauer-Crystal-Birds-Basket-Hofbauer-Collection-Lead-Crystal-1985-Clean-/290633639552
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:24: :24: :24: :24: :24: :24: :24: :smg: :rah: :ha:
I think the price on this other item says it all
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hofbauer-Crystal-Birds-Basket-Hofbauer-Collection-Lead-Crystal-1985-Clean-/290633639552
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It is a bit high for an insurance valuation. I would probably value at around $500 for insurance, $250 for selling. But then there is also a market for very high priced items, certain 1%s would be happy to pay such prices as it adds to the exclusivity. In general Monart fetches extremely low prices in the US because the market is so small there. Most of the sellers that do not ship abroad end up selling for less then it would achieve elsewhere... the buyers probably being European based organising a US friend to bid for them. I imported a lot of Monart from US & Canada in the 1980s. Parkington bought nearly all of his PY paperweights and also dozens of pieces of Monart from the US. The weights were not cheap but the glassware was. Plate 166 was bought by Parkington on my behalf... but when it arrived he fell in love with it and would not hand-over :huh: I got a lousy lizard in compensation.
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Plate 166 was bought by Parkington on my behalf... but when it arrived he fell in love with it and would not hand-over :huh: I got a lousy lizard in compensation.
But Frank, PY Lizard (or Salamander) weights are much rarer than his snakes and worth more too - in both the US and UK. But then I suppose your disappointment was in the days long before I got into Ysart weights and when many PY weights could be bought for about £50. :)
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It is a bit high for an insurance valuation. I would probably value at around $500 for insurance, $250 for selling. But then there is also a market for very high priced items, certain 1%s would be happy to pay such prices as it adds to the exclusivity. In general Monart fetches extremely low prices in the US because the market is so small there. Most of the sellers that do not ship abroad end up selling for less then it would achieve elsewhere... the buyers probably being European based organising a US friend to bid for them. I imported a lot of Monart from US & Canada in the 1980s. Parkington bought nearly all of his PY paperweights and also dozens of pieces of Monart from the US. The weights were not cheap but the glassware was. Plate 166 was bought by Parkington on my behalf... but when it arrived he fell in love with it and would not hand-over :huh: I got a lousy lizard in compensation.
Frank your pricing is spot on for the vase i would say, but i know theres folk out there that would buy a way too high priced piece before they would an identical low priced piece, mad
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ohhhhhhhh i see the price has been changed, its coming down a bit, but still a long way to go :smg:
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hahahah on xmas day this vase was now down to £230ish which was getting more in the ball park, but now as soon as someones shown a bit of interest in the vase (see questions on listing) the seller has put it up over £300 again, lol,