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Title: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl. ID = Jan Zeman, Czech Republic
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on February 13, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Help please to ID this iridescent glass bowl.Its quite heavy and glass quite thick weighs 560 gm

Measures 5" or 13 cm in diameter.

Height 3.25" or 8 cm.

No marks or signature.

Thanks Roy
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Paul S. on February 15, 2013, 10:11:03 PM
Hello Roy         Wondered if you knew what intended use this piece had  -  bearing in mind the three rim indents - not that this will help with a maker, I don't think - or perhaps they were just ornamental.
Alum Bay did very briefly cross my mind  -  I know they did some iridescent, and I have a piece with smooth trailing that continues under the base.        Not sure that this sort of shape was ever one of theirs however.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Ivo on February 16, 2013, 07:24:30 AM
Usually with these indents they are glass rinsers. It saves a glass when switching from red to white to port etc. Normally found in clear. I've only ever come across them in Irish glass.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Paul S. on February 16, 2013, 09:32:35 AM
Now why didn't I think of that............Ivo's comment about the rinser use is logical, and the size is about right..........I have a few dating from early C19 to mid C20, but to the best of my knowledge I've never seen a rinser with three lip indents.             
I'm unclear Ivo.......are you saying you've only ever seen clear rinsers.........they do come in a variety of colours of course......and made by many factories, including Irish.
Or, are you suggesting that it's only the Irish who make three lipped rinsers. ;D
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Ivo on February 16, 2013, 10:01:27 AM
Never come across them in other than clear glass (including green, pink etc) - in any case not in Bohemian style art glass. And I've only ever seen them in Ireland - I think on the continent we prefer to change the glass when changing the wine. And in England, of course, it is the butler who does it so I wouldn't know about that.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: oldglassman on February 16, 2013, 10:04:13 AM
Hi ,
          http://www.leslieantiques.com/cgi-bin/search1.cgi?keyword=u4&dealer=leslieant&fromtrocadero=0

cheers ,
                Peter.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: johnphilip on February 16, 2013, 10:37:33 AM
Do you mean to say you dont have a butler Ivo!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 16, 2013, 12:38:43 PM
It looks very Gozo-ish to me
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Greg. on February 16, 2013, 01:24:27 PM
I thought this looked slightly familiar, I posted a piece a while back, which although there was no definitive conclusion, the consensus was that it was likely to have been Lafiore Glass.

Here are a few pics there do appear to be many similarities:
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Paul S. on February 16, 2013, 02:54:39 PM
Greg.......that does look a very good match for the trailing.

........and just to show that rinsers also exist in Lustrousstone's favourite colour ;)          This one could be as early as 1850 in a sort of chrysoprase.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 16, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
I agree with Greg on the id here. It looks too finely made for Gozo.
It's certainly a new/contemporary piece, even if it is a wine rinser.
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on February 16, 2013, 11:08:15 PM
Thanks for all the replies, it is about the same size as a rinser but that may or may not be just a coincident.

I would also agree that it was fairly new and a contemporary piece.

Thanks Greg for the pictures of you similar Lafiore glass vase

Thanks Roy
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: Greg. on July 29, 2013, 03:50:01 PM
Hi Roy,
There's a strong possibility these may not be Lafiore glass after all. Just came across these contemporary pieces in the below link produced by Jan Zeman. The example in the link is initialled with his mark, however, apart from that they do seem very similar indeed:  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/c998-Iridescent-10-Onion-shpd-Vase-Jan-Zeman-Czechia-/150520808407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230bbd43d7

Having just looked at a few other examples, I am fairly sure these are indeed contemporary Jan Zeman pieces, the example in the link below, has the exact same blue coloured banding and mottled background as my example when viewing the close up image:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/d003-Exceptional-11-amorphous-Vase-Jan-Zeman-Czechia-/150520808515
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl
Post by: SantaR on July 29, 2013, 07:17:53 PM
Is it not an ashtray? 
Title: Re: Help ID this iridescent glass bowl. ID = Jan Zeman, Czech Republic
Post by: KevinH on August 19, 2017, 10:27:26 PM
Following Greg's latest thoughts in this thread and similar work in another thread:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,65366.msg365721.html#msg365721
I have added an ID to the title and moved this into the Czech Republic (etc) forum.

If anyone recognizes other similar items from older threads, please use the Report to Moderator function so they can be reassessed and moved where necessary.