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Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 05, 2006, 10:03:16 PM
Hi

Ref this STELLARIA vase by Nanny Still for Riihimaen
auction_link (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290013636657&fromMakeTrack=true)

Right size and label according to Desingnlasin Hintakirja (pp218) - but wow the shape compaired with the drawing is totally off.

Was this shape updated or toyed around with - my DH is 2005 so I would expect it to show all variations.

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Della on August 05, 2006, 10:17:47 PM
Hi Adam,  :lol:
Long time no 'see.' I have the 2005 book and have just had a look. I agree that the shape in the book is a bit difficult to decipher as it is only sketch. The main difference is, towards the botton of the vase, the book shows that the sides should more be 'rounded,' whereas the vase shown in the link has decidedly squared off edges and it is not shown as dimpled in the book either. There are also fewer lines on the vase shown, than in the book.
However, I saw this and wanted to bid on it myself, as I think it is a good example, but the bidding has already gone way past my budget!

Now I can answer Frank's post in the cafe. Good pictures are essential!
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 06, 2006, 01:06:01 AM
Hi Della

Good to speak again - I have been away from the board for some months, work commitments abroad.

I have a confirm on the eBay shape in another Finnish glass book, which leaves me thinking the DL sketches are really quite bad sometimes.

I have often thought this when comparing with other pattern books such as the large format 'brochure' reissues from the Finnish Glass Museum.

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Frank on August 06, 2006, 09:16:51 AM
Please mention the book title, not everyone will be aware of it (including me).

Design sketches are often just that and the actual piece may vary. On this catalogue page I have replaced a few drawings with photos but I will only accept labelled examples to prove the match. When I finish enhancing the catalogue, the original drawings will be shown alongside pictures. This will show how reality and sketches can differ. http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page12.htm

Also designs that are in production for a long period can evolve:
http://www.ysartglass.com/Moncat/Page02vary.htm
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 06, 2006, 10:31:54 AM
I wanted to bid on the Stellaria also. However the last one for sale went for £140 so I guessed it would go beyond me.
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Della on August 06, 2006, 10:44:50 AM
Sorry Frank,

The book title is Designlasin hintakirja ISBN 952-99515-0-7
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 06, 2006, 03:04:25 PM
My Comparison books (to Designlasin hintakirja) are the 'Soumalaista Lasia' - Glass manufacture brochures (Finnish Glass) from the Finnish Glass Museum - 1950, 60, 70, a different book for each era (soft back 82 - 100 pp) - they include brochures and catalogue pages from all the Finnish glass houses

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Della on August 06, 2006, 03:27:06 PM
Adam,
Do you possibly have a link to where I could buy them? I have just had a look on the Finnish glass museum website and there are tons of books to choose from.  :?
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 06, 2006, 03:54:11 PM
Hi Della

http://www.antiikkijataidekirjat.com/index.html?target=dept_6.html

This guy has lots of these types of books - I have Soumalaista and Soumen Lasi books - There is also a good book just on the work of 'Nanny Still' I have not got that but am told it is excellent

The bookshop is very good and gets me what I need - especially ref Scandinavian glass

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Della on August 06, 2006, 04:04:26 PM
Thanks Adam, you are a darling.  :lol:
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 10, 2006, 02:39:15 PM
Anyone who missed out on the eBay auction

'Planet Oranj' are selling a Riihimaen Stellaria vase by Nanny Still for $175.00 - with the good GBP exchange rate at the moment I may be tempted myself!!

http://www.planetoranj.com/detail.asp?id=7024

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Ivo on August 10, 2006, 03:17:17 PM
SO the Hintakirja tells us the auction value in Finland is 60 Euros and the winning bid on e-bay is 114 pounds. It's the new whitefriars!
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Frank on August 10, 2006, 03:23:01 PM
Looks it too :D
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 10, 2006, 03:38:45 PM
The prices of the better pieces have gone through the roof just lately. I keep looking at my Tynell collection and thinking how much it's now worth and it's scary!
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 10, 2006, 05:04:28 PM
Ivo that is a very good point.

Is there anyone (on GMB) who attends auctions in Finland or Scandinavia regularly who can tell us what this type of vase goes for.

I am very interested - enough to go on a buying trip if the prices are right .... LOL

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 10, 2006, 05:16:58 PM
I do know that a lot of Finns bid on the Finnish glass on ebay UK. They always bid more than Designlasin prices.
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 10, 2006, 05:22:42 PM
Well I suppose it makes some kind of sense for the really good pieces.

In fact I remember when I was eBaying that was the case (although USA was the strongest buyer), same with good Czech, it would always find it's way back home

There goes another plan up the spout!!

Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Ivo on August 10, 2006, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: "David555"
Ivo that is a very good point.
Is there anyone (on GMB) who attends auctions in Finland or Scandinavia regularly who can tell us what this type of vase goes for.
Adam P


You can follow price development on Tradera.se I suppose, it is the venue for swedish glass - though I'm not sure if that is valid for the fins too.
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 10, 2006, 06:35:38 PM
Thanks Ivo
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 10, 2006, 06:49:27 PM
You may find the following article about worldwide prices for Finnish glass interesting
http://www.designlasi.fi/index.php?page_id=282
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 10, 2006, 07:30:11 PM
I once found a Finnish online auction going to links I could not understand with loads of Riihimaen on it. Blowed if I can find it now. However you could keep your eye on this one

www.apollo.fi
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: David555 on August 10, 2006, 07:39:32 PM
Thanks Pat

Those are very interesting links.

I have loads of Scandinavian glass - top notch stuff and am always interested in buying /selling trends.


Adam P
Title: Riihimaen Stellaria Shape check
Post by: Pat on August 10, 2006, 07:45:10 PM
I found it!! www.huuto.net  

A bit hard to navigate at first, you need to go to antikkes off the index and then lasi.

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