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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: dirk. on September 08, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
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picked this one up last weekend - rather out of interest since i havn't seen
this kind of use of copper aventurine so far.
the vase is made of black glass with marvered in flecks. the surface however
isn't completely smooth but has a bit of a mosaic touch. the space between
the aventurine pieces is filled with a foamy greenish glass.
the base is concave, the top rim is ground and polished.
anyone have an idea where it comes from or when it was made?
it's 34,5cm (~14") tall and weighs a bit more than 2kg (that's where my kitchen
scales end, so i can't be more precise)
TIA
Dirk
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It looks a little bit like some of the vases by V Nason &Co but that is only a wild guess . There are also some modern similar ones being made .
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thanks for your suggestion, JP. definitely a name I'd be more willing to believe than
e.g. Dalian or Joska - from my point of wishful thinking.
have you ever seen a vase with a structured surface like this? the Nason vases I've
seen were completely smooth, with the black glass shining through between the
aventurine.
like this "beauty" of mine:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11612
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Hi Dirk you could ask them they are still going , i believe also we have a couple of members who collect Nason glass .
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think I'll wait for these members for a while and try the contact-Nason-option later.
thanks again!
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Hi Dirk i have remembered the Nason one i sold within the last year the colour looked black but if held to a very strong light you could just see it was a very dark aubergine almost black , i also remember it had one small fleck of glass about the size of a large Bee in a blue/green colour like the colour in yours this obviously should not have been there ~oh before i forget loads of Aventurine . JP
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Thanks again for your help, Johnphillip, much appreciated!
Do you think the green is a result of a reaction between the copper in the
aventurine and another ingredient in the glass mass? I've also tried to find
a link to Nason in order to contact them directly - obviously I'm a bit thick
and didn't succeed. ::)
Nor did I with trying to make out the colour of the black glass. I'll possibly
have to wait until the next sunny day, which I'm optimistically expecting
for next June.
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Here is a similar example (in black glass) ...I think mine might be modern ...but it's just a gut feeling I have. Cheers, Mike.
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Hi Mike,
many thanks for your reply. Your vase looks very similar concerning the technique.
I take it the surface isn't smooth like on my vase, but has a bit of a mosaic feeling?
Mine is black BTW, too. Perhaps it doesn't show too well in my pictures.
Perhaps the shape of your vase will give a hint towards a possible maker. :)
Could you add some measures, please?
Cheers,
Dirk
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Hi Dirk,
Sorry...forgot to add the height...it's 23.5 cm tall. It isn't smooth and is made in exactly the same way as yours .
As you say it is very much like a mosaic with the marvered in flecks with this bubbly , white 'cement' over the black glass base. This bubbly 'cement' <----- don't know what else to call it !, looks to be a creamy white colour under the base where you can see the original non-drawn-out shape of the aventurine flecks. There does seem to be a colour reaction going on with the cement which has a light green tinge in places. Also, on mine, it seems to have mixed/reacted with the black glass base as the cement in darkish grey in places.
It's an interesting technique and I would like to know how it is done. I don't understand why the aventurine flecks weren't directly marvered into the black glass.....why use this bubbly 'cement' stuff ? Cheers, Mike.
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I saw another at a fair last week it was imaculate but had one single fleck of green in the whole vase ?
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Thats interesting, I don't think there are any signs of age on mine, so I think it is modern and perhaps Chinese ....similar technique to wireless cloisonne work .
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Another green and aventurine vase: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52710.0.html
John
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Thank you. :) No new information available from my side though... :-\
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Dirk, it reminds me of some of the Dale Tiffany vases. They were made in China, but are pretty to look at. I'll see if I can find your vase with their label.
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Here's the closest thing to what I was talking about. http://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/129768055/tiffany-co-cobalt-blue-art-glass-vase? I couldn't find anything closer to yours. The pattern of the aventurine on your vase reminded me of this, Dirk. The vase on Etsy doesn't have a label, but is correctly attributed.
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I could be wrong but I don't think this is Nason.
I've added some pictures for comparison on this thread
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,52710.msg299354.html#msg299354
m
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Thanks, ladies, youŽve convinced me. :)
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I'd be more convinced if we could find your exact vase. I couldn't find it anywhere. But we know it is out there somewhere. We'll probably chance across it one day.
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IŽll simply keep it for another four years... ;) :-*