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Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 27, 2005, 09:15:04 PM
I've trawled through quite a few links/sites and haven't been able to identify these four dishes/bowls :shock: , so any help would be much appreciated as usual.

#1. Red bowl which looks stunning in a well lit area.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/gmb008.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/gmb009.jpg

#2. Heavy green bowl.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/czech011.jpg
Black light. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/czech2002.jpg

#3. Blue bowl shaped like a canoe.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/pressedglassbowl003.jpg

#4. Clear glass dish/bowl with wavy edge.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/pressedglassbowl002.jpg

It would be really nice if #4 turned out to have actually been made in Manchester.  I've only just discovered four glass makers that operated in Manchester (Salford and Ancoats areas) in the late 19th and early 20th century, i.e. Birtles Tate, James Derbyshire & Sons, Percival Vickers and Thomas Kidd & Co.  So to have a piece made locally would be terrific.   So here's hoping :lol:

Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Glen on September 27, 2005, 09:38:22 PM
1 and 3 are both Sowerby (sorry, I know, wrong side of the Pennines).

The red one is their #2411 - known to Carnival collectors as Hobstar and Cut Triangles.

The blue "canoe" is Sowerby's #2480 - named by Carnival collectors as English Hobstar.

I am sure I've seen the vaseline bowl (2) pattern before but I can't name it without checking through archives etc. The final piece (4) is not one I am familiar with.

Sorry they're not Manchester Glass, Anne! (Incidentally, if you haven't seen the piece on my website about Josef Rindskopf then you really should. It has some fascinating Manchester information in it. I won't say any more or it will spoil the surprise!)
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Anne E.B. on September 27, 2005, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: "Glen"


Sorry they're not Manchester Glass, Anne! (Incidentally, if you haven't seen the piece on my website about Josef Rindskopf then you really should. It has some fascinating Manchester information in it. I won't say any more or it will spoil the surprise!)


Wow!  Fascinating reading Glen :P (in fact I'm going to go back and read it again -  its so interesting) and thank you so much for identifying two of the pieces. :lol:

Regards Anne E.B. :wink:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Tigerchips on June 03, 2006, 06:34:33 PM
The second one I'm fairly sure is Sowerby.

I just happened to find this post while I was looking for something else.  :lol:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 03, 2006, 07:36:10 PM
You are right Tigger - later ID'd  as Sowerby flanged bowl no.2596 which came with a separate handle (Thistlewood & Thistlewood Vol.1 Victoria to George V):P
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Sklounion on June 03, 2006, 09:15:11 PM
Anne,
link on four does not appear to be working.
Derbyshires were a Quaker family, and it might be worth asking at Manchester Mount Street Meeting House, or Frandley Preparative Meeting, near Stretton, (my last place of Quaker membership/attendance) what info they have, on the Derbyshires (some still attend on Sundays), or Cheshire CC archives at Chester, which might also be very useful.
regards,
Marcus
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Tigerchips on June 03, 2006, 09:38:55 PM
I think I've read this post before but I didn't know what it was then. Five years later he finds the answer :oops:

Did you know, I saw an identical one on a car boot and they were selling it for £10 (not sure what they're worth though). Strangely enough, there was another differently shaped Sowerby uranium piece on another stall close by which was £2. It didn't take me too long to figure out which one I wanted.  :lol:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Pinky on June 03, 2006, 09:46:18 PM
.....I must confess to being stunned - and want to say a very big thank you all  - a very big one - for helping me rescue something that would eventually have got broken owing to heavy use. I've got a bowl here - exactly the same pattern, same rim, same foot shape as the number two vessel but the bowl is more rounded, has taller sides which don't have the same straight steep gradient as the one pictured above. I utterly love it and use it for all sorts of things - especially when people come over to eat and all the shades of green glass and pottery comes out. But I'm a dreadful cook - it's my daughter that has it out for everyday salads, cake mixes, trifles, puddings as a container for heavy-going punch - good grief - it's just ocurred to me she might even have put it in the microwave for one of those sticky toffeeish sorts of things. Oh my word........Pinky
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Tigerchips on June 03, 2006, 10:49:00 PM
Uranium in a microwave? :shock:

It's probably okay though I'm not sure if all kinds of glass are microwavable. I know shelled eggs aren't 8)

Sounds daft but, If a piece of glass has a high lead content, will it blow up in the microwave? I know how dangerous metal can be in a microwave.

I must be getting tired, that sounds absolutely daft.  :oops:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Pinky on June 03, 2006, 11:23:14 PM
..........I'm thinking the same thing now, Tigerchips - would this sort of glass go in the microwave? I haven't kept my eyes on my daughter all the time to know if she did indeed put it in there to quick bake a tofee banoffee whatever it is. Might be worth-a-nervous-while to experiment -  put in the microwave for a minute or two to see what happens. Pinky
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Pinky on June 04, 2006, 10:50:17 AM
.........which I did, like the fruit loop I am. The Sowerby bowl went in the microwave for 1 minute 17 seconds without a hitch. It came out feeling a bit hot but that was all. Nonetheless I won't be trying this experiment again............mind you the lead thing sounds interesting...... Pinky
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 04, 2006, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: "Pinky"
.....good grief - it's just ocurred to me she might even have put it in the microwave for one of those sticky toffeeish sorts of things. Oh my word........Pinky

A-A-AAARGH NOOOOoooo!(http://www.websmileys.com/sm/crazy/061.gif)

Marcus - I'll see if I can find another image.  It went to a charity shop recently.  I live a five min. walk from a Quaker Meeting House, but will check out the main one next time I'm in town, so thanks for that :P

Tigger - last of the big spenders like me :wink:
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Tigerchips on June 04, 2006, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: "Pinky"
.........which I did, like the fruit loop I am. The Sowerby bowl went in the microwave for 1 minute 17 seconds without a hitch. It came out feeling a bit hot but that was all. Nonetheless I won't be trying this experiment again............mind you the lead thing sounds interesting...... Pinky

I'm going to phone the RSPCG now.  :lol:

RSPCG = Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Glass (especially Uranium)

I'm sure someone once told me that if something in the microwave -other than food - becomes hot, it is not microwavable and dangerous. Unless the food itself makes it hot.
Title: Four mystery pressed glass bowls.
Post by: Pinky on June 04, 2006, 04:55:12 PM
..........it's alright, Tigerchips - you needn't have phoned the RSPCG - I did it myself - begged 'em to take me off for a long stay in one of their correctional clinics. Don't know what in the name of heaven possessed me this morning - perhaps the Dennis-the-Menace-Syndrome - just HAD to push the button to see what would happen. But a strong - a very strong internal mechanism is drawing the line at putting lead glass into the microwave. It's also now saying a big NO to any more experiments of this nature with ANY glass except the ones that say they're microwave-safe. In the meantime I'm hoping the RSPCG will offer a first rate Cognitive Behaviourial programme to rectify any further glass-related thinking errors:::))) Pinky