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Title: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 15, 2007, 07:06:34 PM
I've always thought these to be by Aseda Glasbruk, and have never seen anything similar by Holmegaard - but this AUCTION (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-HOLMEGAARD-CASED-EMERALD-VASE-SIGNED-NR_W0QQitemZ140085296353QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29563QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) claims otherwise.

Is it something I've missed in the past, or has someone had their dremel out?

There's nothing remotely similar in Lutken's workbooks in Glass Is LIfe, or in any of my collected material, so I'm lost with this one.
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pip on February 15, 2007, 07:20:11 PM
Nic - if this isn't Aseda then I'll eat my hat (and trust me it's a very woolly one that wouldn't taste nice!).  On a more serious note I've contacted the seller and asked if he'd mind rubbing some talc into the signature and trying again to take a photograph of it.  That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 15, 2007, 07:34:11 PM
Good plan! It looks like there's another eBayer out there who is equally suspicious of the Holmegaard provenance.

Saying that, it has been known for Aseda to pick up Holmegaard designs (the Aseda dog-bone/jack-in-the-pulpit vases which scatter eBay and carboots (and my parents' living room), for example, were originally a Lutken design).

One thing that makes me suspect the signature, aside from the design, is the fact that the seller can read Lutken's 'LP' monogram, but makes no sign in their auction or question response that they know who Lutken is. The Lutken monograms I'm familiar with look nothing like 'LP' to the untrained eye.
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Anne E.B. on February 15, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
I've always known this one as Aseda Glasbruk.  It features here in vidfletch's Aseda Glasbruk album.
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/vidfletch2001/album?.dir=/1343&.src=ph&.tok=ph6KFvDBbeoUtaaf
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on February 15, 2007, 07:57:31 PM
Hi,
I have one of these in blue, no sig on mine. I rushed over to check and  :'(

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 15, 2007, 08:05:06 PM
Dremel it is, then!  ;D
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Max on February 15, 2007, 11:50:25 PM
Bit of a side note, but if this piece is Dremel (certainly looks like Aseda to me) then it's the third piece of dodgily signed glass I've seen in about a month.  Hope it's not the start of many more!   :o

Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Carolyn Preston on February 16, 2007, 01:26:40 AM
That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).

Oh I would. It's a lovely piece. And as you know, I'm a philistine when it comes to glass, so I don't care if it's been dremmeled.  :)

Carolyn
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Cathy B on February 16, 2007, 03:51:22 AM
Oh, no. Max, were the others on eBay, and if so, can you post links?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 16, 2007, 09:34:54 AM
When you look through David's site this is the ONLY item to have such square corners. The few angled bases are much rounder. Maybe it isn't Aseda
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Ivo on February 16, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
Oh yes it is Aseda all right.
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: David E on February 16, 2007, 10:25:07 AM
Bit of a side note, but if this piece is Dremel (certainly looks like Aseda to me) then it's the third piece of dodgily signed glass I've seen in about a month.  Hope it's not the start of many more!   :o

Can you remember which countries these ones were being sold from, Max?
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Max on February 16, 2007, 11:51:30 AM
Here's one of them:  It's Daum, obviously.  ::)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230085454034

There was another piece, but I haven't kept the information.  :(

Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sklounion on February 16, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
Obviously a spelling error.... surely this should read Dumb??
(Or perhaps not, somebody paid £23 for it.)
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: David E on February 16, 2007, 12:32:09 PM
Worth keeping an eye on - but with feedback like that? ::)
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 16, 2007, 12:45:43 PM
H'm... I'm sure I have some czeep and czeerful Czech glass kicking about that I can Daum-ify with a Dremel if it will get me £23 a pop.  :o
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sklounion on February 16, 2007, 01:28:33 PM
Quote
czeep and czeerful Czech glass

Magic words!!!
Ok, so what have you got then, before it becomes "expensive and French"? ;D
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 16, 2007, 01:35:17 PM
Just a couple of fairly common solifleur vases which turn into candlesticks when flipped over. Seem to recall one of them still having a Bohemia Glass label.

Oh, and a very pretty 1990s cased black vase with swirly white bits, again with label.

But labels are easily removed during the Daumatisation process!  ;D
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Frank on February 16, 2007, 02:09:17 PM

Oh, and a very pretty 1990s cased black vase with swirly white bits, again with label.

 :P :P ooohhh, picture?
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 16, 2007, 02:13:23 PM
I posted it on here aaaages ago when I first bought it, but I can't find the original thread.

But the photo is still lingering on Photobucket:

HERE (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/bohemiavase.jpg)
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pip on February 16, 2007, 02:35:40 PM
That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).

Oh I would. It's a lovely piece. And as you know, I'm a philistine when it comes to glass, so I don't care if it's been dremmeled.  :)

Carolyn

Oh I agree it is lovely but I already have one, in red, minus the dremelled signature.
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sue C on February 16, 2007, 02:47:09 PM
 :o What a bl***y cheek!  some poor person is going to buy this under false pretence's  >:(
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Max on February 16, 2007, 03:41:06 PM
:o What a bl***y cheek!  some poor person is going to buy this under false pretence's  >:(

It's ok Sue, Nic's only joking!   ;) :D



Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sklounion on February 16, 2007, 03:53:10 PM
I know the Daum on eBay was a cheek, and a lesson on how to turn a perfectly good Vladislav Urban vase, into a piece of junk, (I nearly said worthless) but to show a real Daum mark, complete with the cross of Lorraine:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10018/Daumsignature.jpg
Regards,
Marcus

PS Nick, Please would you send me an image of the solifleurs to my e-mail?

Thanks,
Marcus
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 16, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
No problem - I'll dig them out of storage next time I'm photographing bits and bobs (will be sometime over the weekend).
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 16, 2007, 04:19:27 PM
I got in touch with the seller of the Aseda vase and told them that the signature was fake - they immediately withdrew the vase from sale, which was honest of them.
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sue C on February 16, 2007, 04:40:19 PM
That was good of them, an honest seller, but why research after listing instead of before? when someone point's them in the right direction, did you point them here Nic ?
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Frank on February 16, 2007, 04:42:39 PM
but why research after listing instead of before?

It was marked, no need to research   8)
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Chris Harrison on February 16, 2007, 04:54:48 PM
Thanks for the authentic sig, Marcus.
I can feel me fingers buzzing already...    >:D
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Sue C on February 16, 2007, 05:48:04 PM
but why research after listing instead of before?

It was marked, no need to research   8)
Doh!! of course, silly me :P
Title: Re: Aseda w/ a dodgy signature...?
Post by: Pinkspoons on February 23, 2007, 10:37:19 PM
PS Nick, Please would you send me an image of the solifleurs to my e-mail?

Just checking you received them? They went to your Wanadoo address.