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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pinkspoons on February 15, 2007, 07:06:34 PM
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I've always thought these to be by Aseda Glasbruk, and have never seen anything similar by Holmegaard - but this AUCTION (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-HOLMEGAARD-CASED-EMERALD-VASE-SIGNED-NR_W0QQitemZ140085296353QQihZ004QQcategoryZ29563QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) claims otherwise.
Is it something I've missed in the past, or has someone had their dremel out?
There's nothing remotely similar in Lutken's workbooks in Glass Is LIfe, or in any of my collected material, so I'm lost with this one.
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Nic - if this isn't Aseda then I'll eat my hat (and trust me it's a very woolly one that wouldn't taste nice!). On a more serious note I've contacted the seller and asked if he'd mind rubbing some talc into the signature and trying again to take a photograph of it. That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).
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Good plan! It looks like there's another eBayer out there who is equally suspicious of the Holmegaard provenance.
Saying that, it has been known for Aseda to pick up Holmegaard designs (the Aseda dog-bone/jack-in-the-pulpit vases which scatter eBay and carboots (and my parents' living room), for example, were originally a Lutken design).
One thing that makes me suspect the signature, aside from the design, is the fact that the seller can read Lutken's 'LP' monogram, but makes no sign in their auction or question response that they know who Lutken is. The Lutken monograms I'm familiar with look nothing like 'LP' to the untrained eye.
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I've always known this one as Aseda Glasbruk. It features here in vidfletch's Aseda Glasbruk album.
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/vidfletch2001/album?.dir=/1343&.src=ph&.tok=ph6KFvDBbeoUtaaf
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Hi,
I have one of these in blue, no sig on mine. I rushed over to check and :'(
Bryn (not Brian)
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Dremel it is, then! ;D
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Bit of a side note, but if this piece is Dremel (certainly looks like Aseda to me) then it's the third piece of dodgily signed glass I've seen in about a month. Hope it's not the start of many more! :o
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That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).
Oh I would. It's a lovely piece. And as you know, I'm a philistine when it comes to glass, so I don't care if it's been dremmeled. :)
Carolyn
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Oh, no. Max, were the others on eBay, and if so, can you post links?
Cheers!
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When you look through David's site this is the ONLY item to have such square corners. The few angled bases are much rounder. Maybe it isn't Aseda
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Oh yes it is Aseda all right.
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Bit of a side note, but if this piece is Dremel (certainly looks like Aseda to me) then it's the third piece of dodgily signed glass I've seen in about a month. Hope it's not the start of many more! :o
Can you remember which countries these ones were being sold from, Max?
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Here's one of them: It's Daum, obviously. ::)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230085454034
There was another piece, but I haven't kept the information. :(
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Obviously a spelling error.... surely this should read Dumb??
(Or perhaps not, somebody paid £23 for it.)
Regards,
Marcus
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Worth keeping an eye on - but with feedback like that? ::)
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H'm... I'm sure I have some czeep and czeerful Czech glass kicking about that I can Daum-ify with a Dremel if it will get me £23 a pop. :o
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czeep and czeerful Czech glass
Magic words!!!
Ok, so what have you got then, before it becomes "expensive and French"? ;D
Regards,
Marcus
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Just a couple of fairly common solifleur vases which turn into candlesticks when flipped over. Seem to recall one of them still having a Bohemia Glass label.
Oh, and a very pretty 1990s cased black vase with swirly white bits, again with label.
But labels are easily removed during the Daumatisation process! ;D
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Oh, and a very pretty 1990s cased black vase with swirly white bits, again with label.
:P :P ooohhh, picture?
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I posted it on here aaaages ago when I first bought it, but I can't find the original thread.
But the photo is still lingering on Photobucket:
HERE (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/bohemiavase.jpg)
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That's the only way we're going to know for sure other than buying it (which I for one don't wish to do).
Oh I would. It's a lovely piece. And as you know, I'm a philistine when it comes to glass, so I don't care if it's been dremmeled. :)
Carolyn
Oh I agree it is lovely but I already have one, in red, minus the dremelled signature.
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:o What a bl***y cheek! some poor person is going to buy this under false pretence's >:(
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:o What a bl***y cheek! some poor person is going to buy this under false pretence's >:(
It's ok Sue, Nic's only joking! ;) :D
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I know the Daum on eBay was a cheek, and a lesson on how to turn a perfectly good Vladislav Urban vase, into a piece of junk, (I nearly said worthless) but to show a real Daum mark, complete with the cross of Lorraine:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10018/Daumsignature.jpg
Regards,
Marcus
PS Nick, Please would you send me an image of the solifleurs to my e-mail?
Thanks,
Marcus
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No problem - I'll dig them out of storage next time I'm photographing bits and bobs (will be sometime over the weekend).
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I got in touch with the seller of the Aseda vase and told them that the signature was fake - they immediately withdrew the vase from sale, which was honest of them.
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That was good of them, an honest seller, but why research after listing instead of before? when someone point's them in the right direction, did you point them here Nic ?
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but why research after listing instead of before?
It was marked, no need to research 8)
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Thanks for the authentic sig, Marcus.
I can feel me fingers buzzing already... >:D
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but why research after listing instead of before?
It was marked, no need to research 8)
Doh!! of course, silly me :P
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PS Nick, Please would you send me an image of the solifleurs to my e-mail?
Just checking you received them? They went to your Wanadoo address.