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Title: Strathearn ?
Post by: Wuff on December 28, 2006, 07:45:52 PM
On http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220062453700 (http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220062453700) a paperweight is offered as Strathearn. I would usually think of a Bohemian weight as first bet - with such a green "flower pot". I also couldn't find such a weight on Richard More's web page.
What do other readers think it is?
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: KevinH on December 28, 2006, 09:49:15 PM
I have sent the following to the seller:
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For information, I do not believe this paperweight is by Strathearn but could be 20th century Bohemian (Czechoslovakian). It might be one of several attributed to Frank Eisner, a Czech who worked in both England and Scotland. But the green pot form is not of the style usually seen in the Eisner weights and this may indicate Bohemian. The flowers have similarities to either source.
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: Wuff on December 28, 2006, 10:22:47 PM
Sorry - I had forgotten to mention that I also had mailed the seller, asking on what basis (s)he came to the identification as Strathearn.
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2007, 05:54:41 PM
Well, with two hours to go and only at £9, I don't think anyone else thinks it is particularly good either!  Probably would make more money if they listed it as Bavarian.

Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: Cathy B on January 03, 2007, 01:51:39 AM
Or Bohemian.
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: Leni on January 03, 2007, 11:58:32 AM
About that Strathearn/Bohemian then....
I don't like it anyway  ;D ;D
I've got one quite like it, but I'd always assumed it was Bohemian (or Bavarian  ;) ) or something.  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/3_flowers_in_pot_side.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10048/normal_3_flowers_in_pot_top.jpg
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on January 03, 2007, 08:52:36 PM
I got one too. Still don't know what it is.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l203/glasstrufflehunter/Flowerpotweight1.jpg
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: josordoni on January 03, 2007, 09:08:13 PM
Well I sold my one ..... ;D ;D

My (well its not mine any more) Bohemian Flowerpot (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230065864763)
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: Leni on January 03, 2007, 09:11:38 PM
And at a very good price, Lynne!   :o

But I think it does look better in all white  :)
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: josordoni on January 03, 2007, 09:14:07 PM
And at a very good price, Lynne!   :o

But I think it does look better in all white  :)

Well everyone keeps complaining ebay is keeping the prices down.... I am trying to put them back up again!!  8)

And yes, it was actually very nice in white.  And the bubbles on the leaves were very sparkly and pretty.  I actually liked that one.....but I am not supposed to keep the stock (for very long anyway) ::)
Title: Re: Strathearn ?
Post by: KevinH on January 03, 2007, 11:25:30 PM
Points to note about the various weights shown (according to my theories):

In the initial query item, the stems of the flowers are formed with the colour of the petals being pushed down, showing that the petals were initially set with their inner parts well connected. There is very little effect of the stems being just long air bubbles.

In all the others, the stems are mostly or completely "air tubes" because when the tool was pushed into the centre of the petals there was not much connected colour to be dragged down.

In the first, the flowers all have six petals. In the others they all seem to have at least seven petals.

For the first, the overall shaping of the dome is different, with the others having much higher domes in relation to their width.

When seen through the base, the "pot" of the first appears to have a larger diameter than the others which all have a clearly small diameter.

Although all have pots of a similar style and all have simple "trumpet flowers", the first weight has significant differences which makes me think that even if it is "Bohemian", it may not be from the same time, or general location, as the others, which I think are all later 20th century. In hindsight, I now wish that I had bid so that I might have had a chance to check UV and Specfic Gravity. (But then I don't yet have one of the "later 20th century " versions, so a comparison would have meant yet another outlay for one of those!)

Whether the first weight is "nice" or not is purely a subjective view, but the objective points of difference between it and the others makes it really fascinating to folk like me. ;D