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Title: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: seeker on August 09, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
[Mod: This thread has been extended by merging with another relating to the weight discussed. The original thread has been modified and trimmed to remove comments and posts connected with responses to a comment that caused some distress.]

Need help in identifying the maker of this paperweight, not sure who made it or the age of it.

Size approx about 2½" tall and approx diameter is about 2¾"

Many thanks for any help (again!)
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 09, 2011, 06:33:58 PM
I might be wrong, but that could be a Paul Ysart
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: tropdevin on August 09, 2011, 07:34:53 PM
Hi.

It is indeed a Paul Ysart - and is due to be sold soon in an auction house.

Alan
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 09, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
Yay, I'm learning  :girlcheer: :girlcheer:
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: KevinH on August 10, 2011, 12:26:08 AM
In response to a Moderator query about ownership of the photos, since the weight was known to be included in a forthcoming auction house sale, "Seeker" confirmed that they were her own images and that there was no problem with copyright.
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on August 12, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
The paperweight was part of Lot 514 at Durrants today, which has just gone through.  I was underbidder and it sold for £400 hammer.  The millifiori/bouquet weight is obviously an Ysart, but I'm wondering if it is a Paul piece, and what period?  Im assuming early years?  And taking into account say 20% commision to pay and getting it posted somehow, is £400 hammer a good price for it with the 3 victorian dump weights (all chipped, one has a large annealing crack) and piece of agate as well?

cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: SophieB on August 12, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Hi Ian,

Yes, it is a Paul Ysart bouquet. I would have thought 1930's Moncrieff period. A very nice weight.

Not sure about the price: it would have come to approx. £500 overall. It would have been too steep for me but I have quite shallow pockets (academics are not known for their large income power!!!). At least the seller will get a good price/surprise...

Cheers.

Sophie  
Title: Re: Paperweight ID flower / floral millefiori pattern
Post by: tropdevin on August 12, 2011, 03:27:54 PM
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I bid up to a modest level, but it was not the nicest example of a Paul Ysart bouquet that I have seen: not that many flowers and buds, or signature canes.  What was more attractive to me was the decent sized St Mande concentric in a later lot, which seemed to go more or less undetected (odd, as there are few secrets now that the great majority of lots appear on subscription free internet sites, often with illustrations). But I am going to make sure it has a good home... >:D

Alan
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 13, 2011, 08:02:01 AM
Best you show us the St Mande when you get it now you've piqued our interest.
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: tropdevin on August 13, 2011, 08:11:42 AM
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I will do that - but it can take a long time to get auction lots sent by post.

I recently bought a couple of mixed lots in Scotland that took nearly a month to get to me! That said, the auction house packed the 20 paperweights themselves (very well), and charged me a lot less than one of the 'collect and ship' courier companies might have done - under £2 per paperweight. One office of Mailboxes (who are a franchise, and so can set their own charges at branch level) once charged me over £30 for a single paperweight they sent from Devon to Somerset!

Alan
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 13, 2011, 08:18:47 AM
 ;D You know we like to be nosy and we are patient, mostly
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: KevinH on August 13, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
Ok - if I forget to do it when Alan has posted his pics and info for the St Mande (with acute accent on the "e", of course), someone please remind me to split all this stuff to different threads. :)
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: tropdevin on August 14, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
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Hi Kev

I tried my usual CTRL-ALT-0233 code for the e with acute accent, but it just deleted the post I was typing. Is there a way to generate characters with diacritics on this board?

Alan
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: KevinH on August 14, 2011, 01:00:32 PM
Good question, Alan.

I know that Bernard C. has, in the past, given some information on this, but I keep forgetting where that was. And because I can never remember the ALT codes, I normally use Symbols characters cut and pasted from a documented. But ...

I am not sure if Operating System & Browser Type have an effect, but trying the basics as shown in "Accented Marks and Diacriticals" in such as this starr.net page (http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm), I found that ALT + <code> works for me ...

ALT + 0224 = à ALT + 0225 = á ALT + 0226 = â ALT + 0227 = ã ALT + 0228 = ä ALT + 0229 = å ALT + 0230 = æ ALT + 0231 = ç ALT + 0232 = è ALT + 0233 = é ALT + 0234 = ê ALT + 0235 = ë ALT + 0236 = ì ALT + 0237 = í ALT + 0238 = î ALT 0239 = ï ... and so on.

Must remember to suggest that this, or something similar, is added to the Board Help and Guidelines. Or maybe there is an easier way? I will check with Anne, our resident Tech Wizard:)
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: tropdevin on August 14, 2011, 01:07:30 PM
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Hi Kevin

I think the Alzheimer's was having an effect earlier. I don't know why I was putting the CTRL in the sequence, as I normally would just use ALT+0233 to get é, so that I could spell St. Mandé properly. And that, of course, works fine...

I think it would be useful to have this somewhere on the Board.

Alan
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: tropdevin on August 26, 2011, 09:51:27 AM
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Finally, my St Mandé weight has arrived. Here is a top view. Diameter 2 7/8 inch, height 1 7/8 inch. It has some typical St Mandé canes, an unusual centre cane, and a ring of stardust canes very like those of other French makers such as Baccarat and Saint-Louis (so beware using stardust canes for ID purposes....).

Alan

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/rosismum/th_2927.jpg) (http://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/rosismum/?action=view&current=2927.jpg)
Title: Re: Paperweight ID floral millefiori pattern. ID = Paul Ysart Garlanded Bouquet
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 26, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
Very pretty  :hiclp: :hiclp: