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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: VintageMissy on September 13, 2011, 10:38:24 AM

Title: Nautical paperweight
Post by: VintageMissy on September 13, 2011, 10:38:24 AM

Please could someone else me to identify this glass paperweight on behalf of Helen & Douglas House charity (childrens and young persons hospice based in Oxford).

Its lovely although a bit scruffy and the sea appears to have been made from butterfly wings. The back I believe is covered in shagreen

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Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: Frank on September 16, 2011, 09:44:40 PM

This might do better moved to glass. The use of Shagreen and butterfly wings would place this into the 1890-1930s period, unlikely you will get a maker but getting an ID on the ship will be significant at least for possible country of origin.

You might need to post on a 'ship' forum if no-one here can ID it. These forums can be as hot as the GMB lots of ship lovers out there.

Ooops British flag, can you get a closer pic of the flag on centre mast. Or describe it.

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: VintageMissy on September 21, 2011, 09:28:46 AM

I've tried to get a close-up of the flag on the centre mast but it won't come out well. It looks pink or pale red with two feint vertical lines to the left and a black dot in the middle. Doesn't seem to have any further detail than that.

I'll have to see if I can find a ship forum

How do I get the post moved into "glass" Frank?

Thanks for your help

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2011, 05:26:14 PM

It looks like some sort of serious warship, there are three tiers of canon holes!

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: tropdevin on September 21, 2011, 09:25:24 PM

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At first sight, one might think it was HMS Victory - it is certainly very similar in design - three tiers of cannon, same number of gun ports. The stern flag is the Blue Ensign, which prior to 1864 indicated the Royal Navy Blue Squadron (rather than Merchant Navy) - but I think the flag referred to the officer in command, rather than the vessel....

Alan

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: VintageMissy on September 22, 2011, 09:18:31 AM

I love this forum - very interesting. I just looked at photos of HMS victory and you are right it is similar

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: Frank on September 23, 2011, 08:22:37 PM

It will almost certainly be an exact copy of an illustration and on the right nautical forum you should get an id which may give an earliest date, particularly if original was after 1900.

Title: Re: Nautical paperweight
Post by: VintageMissy on October 21, 2011, 04:15:03 PM

I'll have a scout round for a good nautical forum to post on - thanks for your help