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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: sph@ngw on January 05, 2007, 06:02:48 PM
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There was a company called Duroray in Walthamstow ( Sutherland Road) that did masses of slumping for the tourist and hotel trade from the 1970's. Now owned by Instrument glasses Brian Botterman and Shirley Tucker who was manageress!
Tel was 0208 527 7575.Last went there 2 years ago!
Stephen.
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Company is now called B & S Glass Industries and they have a website here: http://mekoit.com/portfolio/bands/aboutus.html - they now seem to specialise in architectural glass.
Are these the producers of the black on white image promo/souvenir stuff like these? http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-858 which are printed onto clear glass.
I have quite a few of these and they are different to those I suspect are Chance, like this boxed example on opal flashed glass: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-1095
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Interesting that on that link they say "B & S Glass Industries(formerly Duroray) was established in 1928 to produce durographical and screen printed glassware ".
So looking back to 1931 and 1933 we find in Blackhorse Lane, Walthamstow, Duroglass Ltd makers of Scientific & laboratory ware with agents R Johnston & Co Ltd, London WC2. The/name and location suggest not a coincidence. They or Company house would help resolve that. As lab glass producers would need printing technology it is a small step to making that a core business after WW2 when larger labware makers would take a larger market share.
Can you amend the Duroray entry please Anne.
I suggest: in brackets (probably Duroglass Ltd 1928, now B & S Glass Industries (http://mekoit.com/portfolio/bands/index.html))
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It doesn't look like they were the same company Frank.
Duro-ray was a limited company in its own right, and is now called B. & S. GLASS INDUSTRIES LTD.
Date of Incorporation: 31/07/1928 Company No. 00232408
Date of name change: 30/04/1992 Previous Name DURO-RAY LIMITED
Address: 47 SUTHERLAND ROAD, WALTHAMSTOW, LONDON, E17 6BH
No mention of Duroglass in their historical details. [Source: Companies House register)
"Duroglass" also "Durosil" also "Duro Sil R" also "Duroven" Duroglass Ltd., 2/3 Norfolk Street, London.
Makers of lighting, scientific glass, fireproof glassware and ovenware.
[Source: British Glass after the War, Glass Museum http://www.glass.co.nz/trademarks.htm]
I can't find them in the online register, but I did find an obituary of their former Chairman, Douglas Heriot Baird [in PDF format with some interesting glass info: http://www.rsc.org/delivery/_ArticleLinking/DisplayArticleForFree.cfm?doi=JR9400000562&JournalCode=JR]
and a mention of Duroglass Ltd in the Victoria County History, A History of the County of Essex: Volume 6, published 1973 (see online version: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42779, which quotes the Walthamstow Post, 22 Mar. 1951 as its source for the following:
Duroglass Ltd., laboratory glassware, built a factory in Blackhorse Lane during the First World War. It closed in 1926, but reopened in 1932 to produce lighting glassware and, later, television components. The firm ceased about 1965, when the premises were taken over by Industrial Glass Co. Ltd., which itself ceased by 1968.
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Super! :clap:
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I can't get that B and S link to work, so rang them.
B&S was chosen as a new name for Brian Botterman and Shirley Tucker, his Senior manager who he made a partner. (Brian and his son- - ex Saracens Hooker Rugger player - known as "Botts" own Instrument Glasses in Ponders End, making glasses for instruments.
Shirley who is semi retired and her son Colin and daughter in law Angela have moved the business out to Thunderidge in Ware. Herts and deal mainly with specialist Architectural Glass.
We are going to see them tomorrow to see if they can help us on a slumped glass project.
website is now http://www.bandsglass.co.uk/
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Hi guys.
I am a director of B & S Glass Industries Ltd, formerly duroray, and should be able to clear up most of your
questions as was around when making the ashtrays which dried up in the early 90 s with the smoking issues
coming in. We still have the old furnace for slumping the ashtrays which I have rebuilt and built a glass bending
furnace "the old fashioned way"..
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Hello Colin, and welcome to GMB.
As someone who has researched the slumped glassware of Chance Brothers, I would be interested in any information you might have on Duroray. I was aware of the name when working on Chance Expressions where it got a mention, but was never able to take it further. Sadly, with Chance Additions (the (second volume) now in print, I can't include it here either.
Are there any catalogues, price lists, etc. that can be scanned? I would be most interested to compare Duroray with the other manufacturers of slumped glassware, like Chance and Webb. Thanks in advance.
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Hi, yes we still have leaflets from all those years ago which are a bit dated...will send what I find over to you. Duroray was originally on the webbs crystal industrial estate a large number of buildings stretching from sutherland road to blackhorse lane..still have the old plan of the estate somewhere, all been demolished now, including our old building
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Thanks Colin, any help is much appreciated. :)
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Can you send an email address and will send this price list over
Thanks Colin
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Colin,
You can send attachments by emailing (via the website www.chanceglass.net) or info [at] chanceglass [dot] net
Just change to the symbol, remove brackets and close gaps. Real email addresses are not advisable on an open forum, so I hope you understand the caution.
Many thanks.
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Company is now called B & S Glass Industries and they have a website here: http://mekoit.com/portfolio/bands/aboutus.html - they now seem to specialise in architectural glass. The B&S stands for Brian and Shirley, even though Brian has sold out and retired by Shirley still works part time with her daughter and son in law. It is on an industrial estate at Wadesmill, near Ware.
Are these the producers of the black on white image promo/souvenir stuff like these? http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-858 which are printed onto clear glass.
I have quite a few of these and they are different to those I suspect are Chance, like this boxed example on opal flashed glass: http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-1095
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(https://i.postimg.cc/9Rs4n75z/IMG-20200820-213141.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9Rs4n75z)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1V6gh3sB/IMG-20200820-213237.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1V6gh3sB)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vg4ghvKp/IMG-20200820-213242.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg4ghvKp)
This is some Duro-Ray 1970s I think.
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Interesting - these 'City' trays are often mistaken for being made by Chance Brothers.
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They look very much to be from the same stable as the Captain Cook ones too.
The glass is thicker than Chance.
Christine has images, showing a gold label on the back of one of those.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=3141
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1198
It came with a leaflet.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1196
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1197
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I am full of admiration at the Survival of Duroray which is the same age as NAZEING GLASS wORKS!
Here is the wording from their website:-
B & S Glass Industries are at your service in hertfordshire and were formed in 1928 . We make individual flat and bent glass items quickly and reliably, guaranteeing you a timeless elegance with rooms full of light in your home or office.
Customers' requirements have top priority for us, so we find tailor-made solutions for private and business customers at very reasonable prices.
Our specialists can assist with more creative requests, providing just the right solution for all your glass requirements.
We provide comprehensive and highly qualified consultations, from the choice of the type of glass to the processing and finishing in order to meet your needs.
Contact us for a free quote or advice. We look forward to hearing from you!
info@bandsglass.co.uk
The make a lot a flat glass food counters and have some impressive machinery
Colin I assume is Shirley's son.