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Title: a very nice lamp base
Post by: RAY on September 07, 2004, 09:33:03 AM
just acquired this very nice lamp base, but I've never seen anything like it, it's 10" high with a lot of gold and silver aventurine, it's hand blown with 2 applied leaf like pattern design on the sides the base is slightly concaved with no pontil mark, anyone have any idea who made this?

thanks Ray

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid138/p1d1fee80a7e9cf5890428b306e8c65dd/f71c6383.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid138/p5b2ab396d2a7bf1b176dd69f47df1b59/f71c6386.jpg
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Title: a very nice lamp base
Post by: Frank on September 07, 2004, 12:47:51 PM
See here http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm
Title: a very nice lamp base
Post by: RAY on September 07, 2004, 01:41:30 PM
cheers Frank
Title: a very nice lamp base
Post by: RAY on December 02, 2004, 02:56:50 PM
had to drag this one back up again, just been to my local glass factory to see if i can get shade made for it, yep i can, the master glass blower Chris dodds looked at the base and said straight away ahhh! a Paul Ysart base , i said are you sure his reply was yep i knew him well, so could this be a missing link :D
Title: a very nice lamp base
Post by: Frank on December 03, 2004, 06:56:24 PM
Groan...

... It is amazing how much confusion gets into folklore via glassmakers. There is an assumption that because they knew the person that they know everything they make. PY was shown a pic of one of these years ago and said nothing to do with his family.  Lots of this goes on in Scotland. I recall a lamp sold on eBay last year which looked like very much Vasart but eventually Kevin on studying the canes thought it could be Perthshire Paperweights. The original dealer asked a friend who had worked at Perthshire and he stated "No way Perthshire - none of the colours were used at PP". However, the buyer took it to Chic Young "Oh yes, I made that (At Perthshire Paperweights) it was a one of trial and Stuart Drysdale did not approve it for production". He signed the lampbase.

Chic Young trained under Paul Ysart after WWII at Moncrieff's.

If you look at how it is made you will find a lot of differences between it and any Ysart glass. The only similarity is that this uses some silver flakes (Ysart's used Mica - but I believe other materials can be used) and has stripes.  Colours do not usually match those used by the Ysart's but then they did use a lot of colours from various suppliers in Europe and UK.

However, I would still love to know where these were made. I have seen only one vase in this technique but about 6 lamp-bases. Which makes it fairly rare and 1930-50's seems a reasonable date range. USA or Bohemia are still equal hot favourites.
Title: Re: a very nice lamp base
Post by: Frank on February 11, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
A lot more of these have been appearing on eBay since this thread fell asleep so Post WW2 seems likely. Mostly the lamp bases but also the vases.
Title: Re: a very nice lamp base
Post by: RAY on February 11, 2008, 06:33:51 PM
there's a bowl on ebay somewhere, i thinks it's yellow