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Title: Monart light shade variant
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2012, 07:12:07 PM
The images below are from the Monart Lighting ware catalogue held in Perth Museum.
Whilst trying to clean up the image so I could read the writing at the bottom of image one, I came across a variant hidden among the dirt, image two is the original and image three, I filled in.
Gary         
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 26, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
does it say 'with special ??? for HOLOPHANE fitting' ?  Is holophane some sort of lighting thingy?
m
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 26, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
It llooks like it reads 'with special GIRTH for HOLOPHANE fitting' ?  could it read that?
Having looked up Holophane it seems to be a lighting manufacture that was based in London according to Wikipedia.  Would that fit?
m
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2012, 08:41:29 PM
does it say 'with special ??? for HOLOPHANE fitting' ?  Is holophane some sort of lighting thingy?
m
I think you are right well done, see link.
http://www.nixeyandgodfrey.com/vintage-holophane-glass-pendant-light-p-109.html
Gary
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 26, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
yes, as I was writing it I was thinking of those lights but I always thought Holophane was that ribbed type of lightshade not that they were a manufacturer.  I suppose they made all sorts of things then? not just the lightshades?  I was thinking if it did say 'girth' that would be because it needed to be adapted to fit their fitting?
m
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
It reads " Size V+ if with special neck for holophane fitting". The neck on image one is shaped differently than image three. The neck on image three would be shaped like so to take the holophane fitting and hung with the chain which would take the strain of the holophane fitting and the shade. Where as in image one, the cable from the ceiling would take the strain of the shade.
Gary
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 26, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
aha.. I see now :)
m
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
Thanks flying free, I would have never worked out with out your input. As they say "many hands make light work" forgive the pun.
Gary
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 27, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
I need to add, what wonderful and exciting detective work Gary!
Have a banana, a bottle of bubbly, some expensive choccies, name the new variant after yourself... 8)

I think flying-free is so excited and inspired by the information that she has just dived into the research side head-first, and that info is really exciting too - I'm almost dancing in my seat here.

I'm all of a tizz, I'm SO impressed. ;D
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: flying free on September 27, 2012, 10:46:58 AM
 ;D flying free has no idea about anything to do with Monart or the Ysarts lol, but I do like a bit of handwriting deciphering and I do love historical social records.
 I do think it's very exciting that you are near enough Gary to go and do all the research, fascinating to be able to look through all the records and work on some more of the history.  I love that side of things.
m
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: Gary on September 27, 2012, 01:48:51 PM
I need to add, what wonderful and exciting detective work Gary!
Have a banana, a bottle of bubbly, some expensive choccies, name the new variant after yourself... 8)

I think flying-free is so excited and inspired by the information that she has just dived into the research side head-first, and that info is really exciting too - I'm almost dancing in my seat here.

I'm all of a tizz, I'm SO impressed. ;D

Thanks Sue, if anyone has the right to have the variant named after them it should be Betty Reid who worked at Moncrieff Glasswork all her working life. It was Betty that saved most of the Monart archives(housed in Perth museum) from the skip when Monart ceased production. The Monart Lighting catalogue would have been lost for ever if not for Betty and I would have never found this variant.

http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19:ian-turner-glass-researcher-and-author&catid=15:scottish-glass-people&Itemid=16
Gary
Title: Re: Monart light shade variant
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 27, 2012, 04:46:02 PM
It should be called "the Garybett" or Garybetty" then.   8)
(it doesn't work putting her name first)
But of course you are right - team work!