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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flying free on August 27, 2012, 11:09:27 AM
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I bought this yesterday at a flea market. It's a large piece and pretty amazing, good quality and fully polished pontil mark (I angled the photo to show it so it might look as it isn't but it is).
Measures about 7 1/2" across by 7" high (inc lamp attachment). Definitely very old, the feet are worn to matt practically.
Applied cherries, flowers,branches and leaves. The leaves are green and amber and pink and amber. The flowers pink and white with amber centres.
It does glow green under black light although not as green as other pieces I've had - I think this is because the inner cream layer is uranium glass but it has been cased with an overlay of bright green fading to cream layer which does not have uranium content.
I thought it might help sort out the Bohemian v English debate on these pieces because of the green casing to clear - I've only seen this type of cased on applied glass once or twice in yellow to clear so far - and that was also unidentified I think even in terms of country?
Gullivers contains many of these vases with applied decoration but does not id these in terms of country at all as far as I can see, never mind maker - and although the book is 'Victorian Decorative Glass British Designs 1850-1914' it does contain some Bohemian Glass and some is identified by maker in the actual book.
My thoughts are it is English.
I've seen this type of opaque opaline/custard glass with applied decoration id'd elsewhere as Welz (Bohemian) and Boulton and Mills and Stevens and Williams (UK).
I don't think I've seen this type of piece id as Kralik, although the see through and iridescent pieces with applied cherries and flowers have been (see Truitts Bohemian Glass 1880-1940)
Any thoughts welcome? Signs of envy and gushing comments also welcome ;D
It was better than I remembered when I opened it at home - always a lovely surprise :)
m
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My guess would be English and possibly Boulton and Mills from the bicolour leaves. You often have to shine your UV light through custard to be certain of the glow.
Mrs Green here
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Very nice,I'd go with English,do you think it was converted to a lamp at a later date?
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;D thanks both
No, I'm sure (well 99.99%) it isn't a convert. It was made as lamp font.
m
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Close up pics of decoration
m
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lovin it m - great find, well done
cheers!
only slightly mrs green
Mel
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thank you :)
Adding this jug registered design to Boulton and Mills, because it is pink cased over white and so are the cherries on the oil lamp (something possibly unusual as most of the ones I've found tend to be transparent pink glass)
http://www.vaselineglass.org/boulton&millslg.jpg
m
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http://home.earthlink.net/~verredart6/glass/S&W.html
scrolling down on here again I found a shaded blue to white vase with frill that appears to have similar cherries and flowers and the bi coloured leaves on id'd as Stevens and Williams.
I've been through the books I have and can't find a reference for this - anyone know which book these might be in please?
many thanks
m
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Just found a picture in a small 'Miller's Guide' showing a shaded green to white vase with crimped rim,applied flowers in pinky white,amber stems and leaves with cherries,sound similar? they say it was by S&W's but not sure where they get the attribution,have a picture but I've had my wrists slapped before for posting pic's without permission :o ::) ;D ;D so I'd go with S&W's ;D ;D
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Thank you Keith, that's really kind of you to keep a look out for me :) I'm very happy to go with Stevens and Williams - but it would be good to find a pattern reference of some sort as well.
What is the book please btw?
m
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No problem,it's 'Miller's Victoriana checklist' 1991,Eric Knowles was the consultant,Mitchell Beazley publishers,not much on glass,few nice pic's though ;D ;D
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Thanks :)
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I think this might turn out to be 'early Loetz production'. Any input/views welcome :)
See link here item 84.03
https://www.loetz.com/images/loetz-early-84.03a.jpg
and
https://www.loetz.com/images/loetz-early-82.04.jpg
https://www.loetz.com/images/loetz-early-82.01.jpg
I can't find an exact match for the graduated green colour but they did use this bright green and were very fond of graduated colour.
see example here but there are many examples of the graduated colour on there:
https://www.loetz.com/images/loetz-early-41.03.jpg
Also has a polished pontil mark.
I think that is probably where it belongs :)
m
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Just an example of Loetz graduated green from that same time period, to yellow in this instance... A little variation between the two as well.
John
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They're lovely :)
I'm very happy the lamp is now in the right location :D