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Title: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 24, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
I got this lampbase today & whilst it was part of a job lot of glass including three other wf pieces, I'm not expert enough to give a 100% id.
I'd go to whitefriars.com but I think they may still hold a grudge after our falling out a few years ago  ::)

This is a lovely lamp & I'm realy thinking it is a WF one.. more hoping than thinking right now ...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/WhiteRose1649/hhhhgf.jpg

I'm getting quite a collection of lamp bases right now, I need to get flogging them  :o
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: chriscooper on January 24, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
Hi, not Whitefriars looks Czech maybe?
Chris
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 24, 2011, 10:51:01 PM
Hi, not Whitefriars looks Czech maybe?
Chris
Its base & pontil was ground out, its a wf colour & the knobbly range made me think. WF... damn I payed a lot for that lot... hope I get my money back .

Anne wheres that hangman emote again?   
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: chriscooper on January 24, 2011, 11:03:16 PM
Sorry I cannot be more positive though I did learn a long time ago never to say never but with this one I am pretty sure, it's not shape I have ever seen ? have a look at Emmi's blog I think most of catalogued ones are there.

http://whitefriarsknobblies.blogspot.com/

Chris
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: Mosquito on January 24, 2011, 11:09:35 PM
Not WF, but Aseda...

See:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26123.0.html
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: flying free on January 24, 2011, 11:10:25 PM
I'm probably way off here and dragging my memory to think before looking it up, but it reminds me of Aseda? maybe an Aseda decanter?  As I say, I could be way off though.
I like it - I hope it turns out to be something good for you.
m
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: flying free on January 24, 2011, 11:11:20 PM
Ah Steven our posts clashed   -  I'm impressed with myself that I remembered that then ;D
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 24, 2011, 11:18:50 PM
Ta for the help folks, can I be cheaky and ask what you recon the value it. I prommice I've locked all sharp implaments & asprin away...
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 24, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
theres a decanter set on ebay for £60, i was hoping for £50 on the lamp so I'm a little less un-nerved now.

I payed a whoping £125 for the lot including comision fees on the asumption the lamp was Whitefriars..

Theres an intresting lemonade jug & stirer, a 60s cutglass/faceted ashtray thats also intresting & what I thought was a holmegaard vase that might be another scandi in it.
Theres also one of those huge vases with lids that people are always selling as holmegaard in it.

Oh well it wasnt as intresting as last weeks lampbase after all, I'll try again next week  ;D
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: glassobsessed on January 24, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
Your lamp base is Scottish and made in the 1970s by John Airlie. Nice to see another one:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26202.msg144612.html#msg144612

John
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: flying free on January 24, 2011, 11:55:23 PM
ah -  I remember reading that thread as well  - well what a beautiful  piece  :hiclp: and a great id.
m
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 12:08:30 AM
Whoop whoop Thanks John thats 3 very rare lamp bases in as many weeks, i may do a group photo tomorrow  ;D

Its sad that I've got to flog them all to pay the bills. I'll choose one to keep, maybe the Kralik one if theres no offers by month end.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 12:16:41 AM
There was one of his decanters there as well but in another box.

I think this vase might be etched kirkhill as well. I'll get a eyeglass on it in the morning.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 25, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
WoW!!!!!!!

John Airlie! :thud:

Far better than WFs, far more scarce, far more important. It's a piece of Scottish Art Glass history.

Wfs knobblies were knobbled with an "S" shaped tool, Shugdens. This makes a very distinctive mark on the surface.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
WoW!!!!!!!

John Airlie! :thud:

Far better than WFs, far more scarce, far more important. It's a piece of Scottish Art Glass history.

Wfs knobblies were knobbled with an "S" shaped tool, Shugdens. This makes a very distinctive mark on the surface.
I'll put this photo on my facebook group. Thanks for the ID

Its sad in a way that every thing I find is just for its resale value. At least you've got one or two clearance dealers prepaired to show there finds off before they get sold off..

I wont be deleting any photobucket photos so there recorded.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: johnphilip on January 25, 2011, 03:56:52 PM
It aint necessarily so if you present it correctly, i find Scottish glass can do well , do your homework .
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: chriscooper on January 25, 2011, 04:09:02 PM
I too buy to sell on, sometimes I feel a little 'guilty' but it doesn't last long >:D
Chris :sun:
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
It aint necessarily so if you present it correctly, i find Scottish glass can do well , do your homework .
I've re-rote that since  ;D

I love the fact I'm sat on three super rare lamps though.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 25, 2011, 04:32:50 PM
 :thud:

not the "r" word, and especially not in conjunction with "super", please!
That's enough to get me leaving an auction without even looking at the item in question.
And doubting the dealer's knowledge and stock, permanently.
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 05:45:13 PM
:thud:

not the "r" word, and especially not in conjunction with "super", please!
That's enough to get me leaving an auction without even looking at the item in question.
And doubting the dealer's knowledge and stock, permanently.

I dont use them on Ebay. I'm still deciding which one to keep so it will be a few weeks before I get round to putting any of them on Ebay.
The Serves freeformed one looks best in my house, I've advertised the Krelik on here & by word of mouth. I was trying to get Wayne intrested on sunday when I met him but he didnt take the bait  :-\
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: johnphilip on January 25, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Did you mean Serfs ?
Title: Re: Another Lamp Base, is it Whitefriars?
Post by: shugdens on January 25, 2011, 10:53:37 PM
Did you mean Serfs ?
No Sevres France, I thought I'd put it up. Its one solid piece of glass or crystal & very heavy.

Sorry about the photo I'm using a sony cybershot 5mp phone camera, the flash isnt up to much.



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/WhiteRose1649/DSC00243.jpg