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Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 16, 2006, 04:15:04 PM
Just bought this incredibly pretty WMF tazza, because I felt in love with the art nouveau shape and the vaseline/cranberry/crackle mish-mash it's got going on.

Any clues as to date and/or designer? I know nothing much about WMF, is the glass Ikora?

(I'll update with better photos when the item arrives)
Full View (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/fullview.jpg)
Bowl (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/bowl.jpg)
Bowl Detail (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/bowl-detail.jpg)
Metal Detail (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/metal-detail.jpg)
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Glasshound on October 16, 2006, 08:39:29 PM
Hey Nic,

  Doesn't look anything like WMF Ikora....this looks like a very nice piece of glass from 1880's..

/Blair
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 16, 2006, 09:00:40 PM
Yeah, I had a looksie around the internet and couldn't find anything which even vaguely matched up with it under the Ikora umbrella.

The seller had a photograph of the maker's mark, and it looks like the WMF 'ostrich' logo - used up until 1914, according to a website I looked at - although to be honest, the photograph is fairly indistinct. But it wasn't too expensive, so I don't mind so much if it's not WMF.
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Ivo on October 17, 2006, 05:47:04 AM
seems the glass has little relation to the mounting...
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 17, 2006, 07:16:39 AM
Oh dear, a marriage is suspected? I'll have to see how snuggly everything fits when it arrives.  :(
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Glasshound on October 17, 2006, 01:43:24 PM
Looks like a perfect match to me!  8)

It has a very "balanced" look to it..

/Blair
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 17, 2006, 01:59:26 PM
I can see Ivo's point - the glass does look a touch earlier than the base. As you say, 1880's or thereabouts for the glass... but the base, to me, looks turn of the century give or take a decade either way.

But I'm hoping that it's not a marriage, obviously.  :lol: The suspected period of the glass and that of the base do over-lap. A bit.

Any vaseline collectors out there willing to chance their arm at suggesting a manufacturer?  :D
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 26, 2006, 02:51:17 PM
It arrived about 20 minutes ago. It's marked WMF, although I can't find the exact mark elsewhere through Googling, so I can't date it.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/wmf-mark.jpg)

I would guess that the bowl is original, as it fits snuggly, the base has been ground to fit nicely into the metal cup and there's corresponding surface-wear on the inside of the bowl from the securing screw. But, of course, that's just my guess and they could be later additions to the bowl.

And it's silver-plate on brass... which someone has cleaned a little too vigorously, so I'll have to have it replated at some point.
Title: WMF Vaseline & Cranberry Tazza w/ Silver Base.
Post by: Pinkspoons on November 07, 2006, 06:54:18 PM
Ivo, you were, as usual, quite correct... it's not the original bowl. Just wishful thinking on my part. *sigh*

The original bowl looks something rather like this, which I've just purchased:

eBay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110049378298&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)

At least I've now got a reference point for finding an original bowl. I'm hoping it's a common enough design and was maybe applied to lesser WMF tazzas also.... Good job I'm patient with this kind of thing. :D