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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Greg. on March 25, 2012, 01:56:36 PM
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Just a little clarification required on this delightful piece of Whitefriars.
Not completely sure about the colour although looks close to Aqua with dark purple streaks of colour running through the glass.
Ground polished pontil mark to the base.
Measures approx 3 inches tall and 4 inches in diameter. Very heavy 1050 grams.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Greg
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Just a few a additional pics, hopefully a little clearer.
Can't seem to find the shape in the Whitefriars catalogues. In terms of colour the main body appears aqua and has deep purple streaks running through. The exact colour of the purple streaks are a little hard to capture on camera.
Not sure its intentional or not, there is also an extremely small slope across the top of the rim.
Came from a collection with other Whitefriars pieces. Any info appreciated.
Thanks.
Greg
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Hi i have seen another of those recently i have slight doubts about the maker , having said that i am wondering about the cirrus range that Ray made... there was one that shape i believe , have you asked on W/Fs.com ?
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I'm wondering Caithness.....
Some of the later limited edition studio pieces were very much these colours - and the bulbous flanged rim on this looks nothing remotely wfsey...
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Over all look to me is Mdina.
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It's not Mdina.
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Double definitely not Mdina. ;D
Are those 'pulled bits' like you get on Whitefriars knobbly vases and bowls?
John
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They are very reminiscent of the Whitefriars knobbly vases and bowls, the surface also looks a little like small folds or indents, which reminds me a little of some of the Whitefriars dimple vases.
The colours and streaks do certainly remind me of other Whitefriars streaky/knobbly vases I have owned in the past. Although, as Sue pointed out the rim is certainly not indicative of Whitefriars generally speaking.
Certainly, the texture and streaky pattern do draw resemblances to some of the Cirrus knobbly vases:
http://www.whitefriarsorg.org/memb1/gcooley/DCP01901.JPG
A link to this thread has now been added on the Whitefriars website.
Many thanks.
Greg
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A few other larger pics uploaded in the below link, which hopefully may help.
https://picasaweb.google.com/114212950044348042742/PossibleWhitefriarsVasePot?authkey=Gv1sRgCNfMnIOxuLzgQg
Thanks for your earlier suggestions JP, much appreciated. :)
Many thanks
Greg
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Purple streaks in teal glass and knobbly bits on the surface are both decidedly features of late (and rather spectacular) Caithness Studio..... although I haven't seen this shape, nor do Caithness tend to have polished pontil marks.......... :-\
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Thanks Sue, I did have a quick search into Caithness Studio pieces, although didn't see anything matching. I wonder if its worth emailing Caithness just to rule them out, or would the shape and polish pontil mark on this rule them out completely..?
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:-\ I don't know!
I've just sorted a couple of pics.... at least they might conform colours. The colours on the Freeform charger come out better than they do in the Impact vase.
Caithness is now run by Dartington - and situated in Crieff, not too far from me - I do visit.
There are about 5 pots operating, all making paperweights, but I'm afraid the staff know nothing about anything of the history or designers. They're just folk hired to run the shop.
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Thanks for taking the time to upload the images Sue, interesting.
It's always a little difficult comparing colours online, especially when they are similar. Hard to say, but If committed, I think my piece has a slightly more aqua/greeny hue to the glass. Although, the purple does look similar, having said that the purple in the Whitefriars streaky vase (I use to own) in the attached photos, does also look pretty similar again. :-\
Thanks for the info on Caithness/Dartington, I'll think I'll hold off contacting them for the time being, as you say, probably unlikely to get much feedback in terms of slightly older pieces.
Certainly puzzling.
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My jury is out...... ::)
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polite bump :)
Any further suggestions on this one gratefully received.
As suggested a thread was gratefully started on whitefriars.com and also in the 'is it whitefriars' section. Although nothing definitive, there was a suggestion that it could possibly be a Whitefriars Cirrus frigger. Other suggestions to date have been either Mdina and IoWSG, which can both be ruled out.
My gut feeling is that it may well be Whitefriars, however, would welcome any further comments/thoughts.
Thanks
Greg
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hi greg from looking at the pictures of the vase it looks like to me that it may be a Whitefriars streaky heather knobbly glass vase
Pattern number 9844
Hope this Helps
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I agree wth the above i have a small W/Fs bowl in heather , just checked colours are the same .
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Thanks for taking a look. It maybe me, but I think there's a bit of a mix up here. :)
The Whitefriars streaky heather vase (9844), is sadly not the vase in question. The pictures of the Whitefriars heather vase, were just added to compare the colours against the vase vase/pot at the beginning of this thread, which is the one in question.
I've attached a few photos of the small vase/pot in question. There are also a few more detailed pictures contained in the link below.
Thanks
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https://picasaweb.google.com/114212950044348042742/PossibleWhitefriarsVasePot?authkey=Gv1sRgCNfMnIOxuLzgQg
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I realised that after pushing the button .
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No worries JP. :)
I know you mentioned previously you had seen another small vase/pot similar to this one, just wondering if the colours were similar or not..? Does the M.O.L Whitefriars book contain much on the Cirrus range that Ray used to make..? I would like to try and rule Whitefriars in or out if possible to try and narrow the search a little. :)
Thanks
Greg