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Title: Cut champagne glasses - ID = Tudor of Stourbridge
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 01, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
a set of 9 champagne glasses - i think they are about 1920 - but is there a way to find out who the manufacturer was ?
help is much appreciated - greetings and many thx for looking , Thomas
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: johnphilip on September 01, 2010, 03:23:42 PM
Just a gut feeling i would go with Webb , mostly because of the foot .
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: Leni on September 01, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
Not sure who - we need Nigel, who seems to be otherwise engaged lately  :spls: - but I love and covet them!   :mrgreen:  

A set of 9 as well!   :thud:  

How to find out?  Well, you could sit and go through every image on 'Replacements' if you have an afternoon or so to spare!  :24:  Actually, I did identify one of mine by doing just that once!   :pb:  
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: johnphilip on September 01, 2010, 06:03:45 PM
Hi Thomas have you looked at James Powell glass , i am sure you will love it , you should come to the Cambridge glass fair this month  its in a vineyard . see www.glassfairs.co.uk
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 01, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
dear friends of glass !

many thx for your helpful replies !
i will come to england in november the 13th to see broadfield museum and on sunday the 14th i would like to visit the national glass fair !is anybody from here at the fair as well ? - i am so sorry that i have no time for the cmabridge glass fair ... if there are some fine silver mounted claret jugs it would be great if anybody could tell me .. !
in the end i have to buy an tiny appartment in england - perhaps near london ? or shall i rent an appartment or a studio ?..
for my opinion i have to go back to roots when i collect claret jugs from england !!
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 01, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
wow a silver mounted claret with james powell glass body would be a great addition ...  !! nothing on ebay and nothing up for auction at the moment :-(
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: johnphilip on September 01, 2010, 06:49:04 PM
Thomas if you get in touch with CIRCA GLASS they will keep you up to date just get on to the glassfair web .they run all of the best glass fairs in uk in my opinon jp  Have a look at The Country Seat for good POWELL glass JP
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 01, 2010, 06:58:07 PM
Great link !!  :clap: many many thx , T. :thud:
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: glasseyed on September 02, 2010, 10:11:12 PM
Sorry Thomas, you can't buy any Powell glass because it's all for me   >:D

Hazel

I will see what I can find on the glasses.
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 03, 2010, 03:33:46 PM
I will let you the powell glass and you let me the rock crystal glass :rah: 
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: Ming on September 05, 2010, 03:47:31 PM
Thomas
Sorry to tell you your wine glasses are not Webb or Steven . They were made by Tudor of Stourbridge. Tudor was a smaller firm than Webb and the man at the intaglio dept was Jack Lloyd.  
Here is my Tudor wine glass just compare with yours. Same pattern except foot pattern. My has the mark " Tudor Made in England " on the base.
Jack Lloyd produced some excellent intalgio glass. This wine glass is not top quality for him and produced after the war.

My best piece of Jack Lloyd glass was post a few months ago. Just search J. Lloyd in the Glass section
and see the photos.
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 05, 2010, 04:00:07 PM
Hi Ming !

great info anyway - i am very happy with this information - i think i will put them on ebay - they are too big for and i prefer wine than champagne !
many thx again , Thomas
Title: Re: Stevens & Williams or Webb ?
Post by: johnphilip on September 05, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
Hi Ming  ,very underrated Tudor so often bought for reasonable price , didnt several of their workers come from other firms like Webb or S&W ? jp
Title: Re: Cut champagne glasses - ID = Tudor of Stourbridge
Post by: Ming on September 06, 2010, 12:21:16 PM
JP
For the engrave and intaglio dept at Tudor where was only one name- Jack Lloyd. He was trained at S&W in the late 20thc and later went to became the head of intaglio dept at Webb but only for two years. Left to work for Tudor as head of Intaglio dept for the rest of his life.
He produced the best work before the war and after his retirement his old clients at Tudor still only purchase his work.
The company has no choice(Tudor is relatively small) but to ask him to return. John Sanders(the expert) said one of the director had to pick Jack up from his house in the morning and took him home for lunch and returned to factory later  and took him home again after work. He worked until 92/93 years old and died very soon after(possible due to overwork my opinion)
He did signed most of his work on the bowl and pre-war work had  the word Tudor without Made in England on the base.

Here is one of my J. Lloyd glass. Three different designs on one glass.
Title: Re: Cut champagne glasses - ID = Tudor of Stourbridge
Post by: johnphilip on September 06, 2010, 01:34:56 PM
Thanks Ming , i love your glass and now i know a bit more about Tudor . :thup:
Title: Re: Cut champagne glasses - ID = Tudor of Stourbridge
Post by: claretjugcollector on September 06, 2010, 01:36:05 PM
i like them too and they were not very expensive ;-)
Title: Re: Cut champagne glasses - ID = Tudor of Stourbridge - J lloyd Mug
Post by: Gowdod on May 04, 2016, 07:42:14 AM
One to add to the picture collection.

It is signed J Lloyd but cannot find any Tudor mark. Does feel post war but what do I know!

Picture of signature too

Yours  Andrew