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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: RAY on April 14, 2007, 12:20:13 AM

Title: PY fake sig
Post by: RAY on April 14, 2007, 12:20:13 AM
defo fake, and the age process to the base is terrible

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250104498117
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Frank on April 14, 2007, 10:09:02 AM
Another copy of the signature from my site, going by the wording of the auction the seller seems to recognise it is not genuine but basically leaves it to the bidders to decide.

I suppose some people will be interested in buying is as a drawing of a signature of Paul Ysart that is also on someones paperweight. I imagine the artist had greasy, slippery fingers and used coarse emery on the base to make it easier to grip whilst signing  ;)

But seriously, can anyone identify the maker of the weight... Selkirk has been suggested...
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Sue C on April 14, 2007, 03:38:52 PM
I think that weight is Alum Bay, i have had one very similar
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Frank on April 14, 2007, 09:52:28 PM
How were Alum Bay marked usually?
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: KevinH on April 15, 2007, 02:35:44 PM
Alum Bay had an impressed mark "AB" - sometimes very hard to see the details. They also used a paper label. I don't know whether or not some items were unmarked.

I thought we had an older mesaage where the Alum Bay (and Isle of Wight) logos were discussed and some images were inlcluded. But I can't find it. And I can't find the images I took of my weight the the AB logo + paper label - the weight is also of the "swirly" type.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Anne on April 15, 2007, 02:59:32 PM
Here you are Kev: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1228.0.html  8)
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: KevinH on April 15, 2007, 04:17:58 PM
Thanks Anne.

Here's three of the images now in the Glass Gallery (originals being Tinypic ones):

Alum Bay weight (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6487), the one on the right
Alum Bay label (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6489)
Alum Bay "AB" logo (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6488) (not too clear - you might need to stare at it for a few seconds to see the lettering!)
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: karelm on April 15, 2007, 04:56:42 PM
"snip"not too clear - you might need to stare at it for a few seconds to see the lettering!"snip"
I stared...it became a 3D image of my moter-in-law.  I left.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Frank on April 15, 2007, 05:03:26 PM
Clearly not the same as the eBay one...
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: josordoni on April 15, 2007, 08:20:17 PM
"snip"not too clear - you might need to stare at it for a few seconds to see the lettering!"snip"
I stared...it became a 3D image of my moter-in-law.  I left.

I saw an eagles head...

My latest Alum Bay JIP vase has no marks, but is exactly the same as one on the AB site.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Sue C on April 16, 2007, 10:45:27 AM
The weight i had, had no mark but did have the lable.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: josordoni on April 16, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
The weight i had, had no mark but did have the lable.
Hi Sue, I reckon mine probably had the label too, but it got washed off.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: Sue C on April 16, 2007, 01:05:11 PM
Hi Lynne, that's what normally happens, did alum bay use more than one lable? i have this nagging feeling i once saw one in black, but it could easily be another studio.
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: KevinH on April 16, 2007, 03:59:05 PM
For clarity I have produced a version of my AB logo photo with outlines (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6501). The blue dashes show the outer edge of the impressed area. The black dashes show the edges of the raised internal bits. The yellow dashed line shows where the A and B are joined to make one overall shape.

Hopefully, this will help dispel tricks-of-the-mind showing the likes of in-laws etc.  ;D
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: josordoni on April 16, 2007, 04:11:49 PM
Oh Wow!  I can see an elephant now.... :o
Title: Re: PY fake sig
Post by: karelm on April 16, 2007, 04:29:29 PM
OK!
Now I see it!!!
....but it does also look like my mother-in-law when she is shouting at me to get her another G&T and wearing a funny hat ;D