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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: Bernard C on February 18, 2006, 08:10:58 PM
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Last minute rush, just finishing packing for Cambridge, and I found a Walther? vase, u/green, two satin kneeling girls with Marcel waves, back-to-back, holding hands, on a satin base, and supporting an oval flared 8-panel trumpet vase in clear. Height 16 cm.
Help appreciated with maker, pattern No. / name, dates.
Bernard C. 8)
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Check Cheri's site AlmasAttic. I think she has one of these vases.
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Walther Windsor. Pretty desirable and on my wish list. See Pamela's site
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http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/00655.html
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http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/00658.html
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Bernard - if you trace an Oxford clock for me - don't mind the colour!
Same applies to Pierrot+Pierrette boxes ;o)
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and of course P&P clock - any colour!
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I really love these Walther Windsor vases!
I have had a number of them over the years, in green, pink and blue, and had a clock in once that sold within a few hours of listing it. The pink vase I have in at present is the large one. A beauty!
BTW
Pamela, I was contacted today by a lady who was looking to ID a vase she had just found at an estate sale and it was a blue Schmetterling.
So lovely!
I gave her the link to your site so that she could see your ones and also as she was interested in seeing more examples of Walther.
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Thanks, everyone, for helping me out at such short notice. I will reply properly after the fair.
Bernard C. 8)
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Connie, Christine, Pamela and Cheri — Grateful thanks for your help. From your comments it will not surprise you that our very first sale, within a few minutes of the fair opening to the public, was this Windsor vase. Apologies, Christine, this one didn't have your name on it.
Pamela — I have had a quick look at your website, but so far haven't found images of your wants except for the catalogue illustration of the Oxford clock. I will have another look later this week.
Bernard C. 8)
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Congratulations on your sale Bernard :P
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Bernard - thank you! My 'wanted corner' in fact needs nursing! It is always the last one I look at, if at all - always feeling everybody knows what is lacked :roll:
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it remains the main aim of my collection to represent/document the whole range of Walther and Brockwitz during 1930/40
of course there are many patterns still missing, and it is just so easy to tell: look for an Oxford or Pierrot&Pierette clock for me please - these are rare and more or less I gave up to find them locally :?
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Cheri, what is your thinking about the knife then
please do not forget: I shall not be in the office before wednesday
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Hi Pamela
I did email you back to the email address you indicated so if you didnt get it maybe check your "spam" box
:)
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Oxford ... Pierrot&Pierette clock ... these are rare ... locally ...
Pamela — yet more possible examples of rarity caused by patterns being designed and made for an export market, and then not being successful there, with only one batch being made and shipped. I believe that this is one of the most frequent causes of rarity (if that is not mutually contradictory).
There is at least one likely case of a glassworks almost always operating this way as their standard policy — Walsh exporting to the USA from c.1875 to c.1910 or later. I believe Walsh expected their successful designs to be plagiarised by American glassworks, so shipped one large batch to their American agents, and then went back to the drawing board and designed afresh for the next shipment. This would explain the huge variability of their product range over this period, and why several of the most unusual and important items in the Reynolds collection have been sourced from the USA via eBay. Their success with this marketing strategy would also explain a report of around 1900 on the Stourbridge glass industry which noted that Walsh was the only glass house operating two furnaces devoted to the production of fancies.
Such a policy would have been unlikely with pressed glass, due to the high initial investment in mouldmaking. I have yet to see any studies of this economic aspect of historic pressed glass production published in the English language. Have there ever been any published in German?
Bernard C. 8)
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Bernard, thank you!
Still I am a collector and do not know too much on the history :?
Thanks to D. Mauerhoff I do know that:
all Walther figurines including Pierrot&Pierrette are designs of Fritz Scheiner who joined Walther during the early Thirties. These moulds were used for nearly thirty years, until when Walther collapsed.
I guess that after war most of Walther production was exported to UK.
They would not have exported to Western Germany - that is why it is so rare here. So the Walther glass I do buy now in England is probably of Fifties production but Thirties' pattern.
GDR had their market with the old moulds. New moulds of VEB Sachsenglas never reached that quality.
I do think, Geiselberger and Mauerhoff studied and published a real lot in Pressglas-Korrespondenz - so far all in German language, I'm afraid. But as far as I know they are working on that :)