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Title: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
Post by: Angela B on May 12, 2009, 02:49:37 AM
Even though I have been writing about and researching Bagley glass for the past ten years and more, there are some rare items that I have never seen. There are now over three thousand glass enthusiasts who are members of the GMB, and maybe some of you have these rare pieces in your collections. So if you have, or used to have, any of the following please can you let me know. Here is the list of items I would really love to see:
  • Bowl no. 3186 which has been named "Scarborough"
  • The square stepped base with mitred corners which fits under the Perseus and Andromeda lamp
  • Art deco bookend shaped like a sail boat
  • Art deco bookend with a curved top and straight line pattern
  • trumpet shaped vase with flower band, registration number 790480
  • bottle shaped vase with cut glass design, registration number 816035
  • Acorn lamp shown in the 1937 Royal Visit booklet
  • Kookaburra (or Kingfish) wall lamp from the 1936 coloured Bagley catalogue
  • They are all pictured in our book on Bagley Glass, http://www.glass-time.com/orderbagleyglassbook.html,  but the pictures of these particular items are from advertisements or catalogues or design drawings. I am not even sure if some of them were ever made.  Any information or pictures would be really welcome.
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Mosquito on May 13, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
    Hi Angela,

    I used to have a Perseus & Andromeda lamp with the base. I've attached a couple of pics of the complete lamp below. I used to have a photo just showing the base but i can't find it at present - it may have been one I lost a couple of years ago after a hardware failure.....

    Steven
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on May 25, 2009, 09:07:24 AM
    Hey Steven that is brilliant,
    That's the clearest picture I've seen of that lamp. What a pity I didn't spot it when you were selling it! Can I use your picture next time I do a new edition of the Bagley Glass book? Also, can you remember where the wiring went and what the light fitting looked like?
    Very Best regards
    Angela
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Mosquito on May 26, 2009, 09:12:50 AM
    Hi Angela,

    You're more than welcome to use the pictures, though the quality is not great. They were taken with my first digital camera which was more a glorified webcam so I don't know how good they'll look in print. Anyway, I'll dig out the full size versions & e-mail them to you.

    The lamp I owned didn't come with a fitting so I don't know exactly what type would have been used. The base was slightly domed in the centre with a hole in the middle so I imagine it would have taken a similar fitting to that seen on the tulip lamp. There was a moulded indentation for the cable to exit under one of the mitred corners, I think you can just make it out in some of the pics.

    Sorry you missed out on this, it was a few years ago now that I sold it. If I come across another example, I'll be sure to let you know.

    Thanks,
    Steven
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on May 27, 2009, 04:52:15 AM
    Thank you so much, Steven.
    Do you have my email address to send the pictures? (I tend to hide it because I get so much spam).
    Best wishes
    Angela
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Bernard C on May 31, 2009, 05:26:17 AM
    Other rarities I've seen of which Angela, no doubt, would appreciate photographs are:-
  • 934 Table Lamp with tilting shade support, similar in style to the Davidson Good Companion Lamp, with the shade drilled in the centre.
  • Leek Andromeda Table Lamp, which is the reason for the bayonet fitting version of Andromeda.   The same lamp was also fitted with a rocket, probably not by Bagley as it's the wrong colour.
  • 3025 Tulip Lamp with close-fitted bakelite base incorporating a switch.
  • 3025 Tulip Lamp, Zimmerman version covered in chrome leaves.

  • Bernard C.  8)
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on May 31, 2009, 05:37:37 AM
    Thanks for the additions Bernard.
    It maybe I'm being slow this morning, but could you clarify this one for me?
    Quote
    Leek Andromeda Table Lamp, which is the reason for the bayonet fitting version of Andromeda.   The same lamp was also fitted with a rocket, probably not by Bagley as it's the wrong colour.
    Why "leek"?
    Many thanks
    Angela
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Bernard C on May 31, 2009, 06:54:31 AM
    Quote from: Angela B
    ...   Why "leek"?   ...

    Angela — Thanks for that!   I had visions of you going cross-eyed trying to marry up a Welsh vegetable, a table lamp, and an Andromeda figurine.  :spls:

    Not that sort of leek — Leek was a Birmingham metalbasher, like Zimmerman.  ;D

    Their address is variable, depending on who you ask.   I have E&J Leek, Alma Works, Alma Street, Aston, and a Google search yields a possible alternative company or building name of "Levics".   I think others, possibly including Chris & Val Stewart, have one or more completely different Birmingham address(es).

    The lamp is a chrome ball containing the bulb on a chrome spreading foot with a switch.   Andromeda or the Rocket plugs in the top.   All that metal and no earth connection — a health and safety nightmare.

    ... which reminds me ... here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTKtyBupoHE) is the new Channel 4 link, which you've probably not seen.

    Bernard C.  8)
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on May 31, 2009, 07:47:15 AM
    Thanks Bernard - that's exactly what I was trying to imagine  :spls:
    Do you have a picture of this metal base?
    Best regards
    Angela
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Bernard C on May 31, 2009, 10:18:24 AM
    Quote from: Angela B
    ...   Do you have a picture of this metal base?   ...

    No, Angela, I don't have pictures of any on my list — let's hope someone does.

    Bernard C.  8)
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Mosquito on July 01, 2009, 08:09:32 PM
    Hi Angela,

    I've finally found a couple of higher resolution versions of these pics of the Perseus & Andromeda lamp, but all are still quite poor. I can't seem to find your email address so if you send me a message I'll reply & attach the pics.

    All the best,
    Steven
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: oyemicanto on June 19, 2011, 07:30:52 PM
    Hi Angela
    If you are still interested I have just purchased on ebay a Bagley "leek" lamp but this one has a green equinox bowl/shade on it.
    When it arrives would you like some photos of it?
    Best wishes Nige
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: BRADBURY7308 on August 17, 2013, 03:22:38 PM
    Here is a rare bagley piece i can supply better quality picture's if required for your new book publication...
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: oyemicanto on October 05, 2013, 06:10:41 PM
    Hello all
    Did Bagley make an extremely large bowl roughly about 40cm in diameter?
    The rim of the bowl has the exact ripple pattern as the elf posy dish and then around the bowl are moulded to look like cut glass stylised flower heads?
    I have seen it in the flesh but do not have it in my possession it was a very strong uranium colour.
    Thanks in advance Nigel
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: oyemicanto on December 04, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
    Hi again
    This is the large bowl I mentioned that I have.The edge reminds me of Elf pattern and the bowl is stamped under base Made in England
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on August 19, 2016, 11:45:37 PM
    Hi Nigel,
    Sorry for being so slow in replying to your messages.
    I don't think your bowl is Bagley - I've never seen that bowl in any of their adverts nor their catalogues. Had you thought of Joblings or Davidson as the maker?
    Going back even further, you bought a "leek" vase with an equinox shade. I would love to see a picture of it.
    best wishes
    Angela
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Simba on April 21, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
    I have just bought an Andromeda figure with the bayonet fitting which I can see fit in the lamp base but what is the post at the top of her head for ??
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Angela B on April 22, 2018, 02:25:15 AM
    I don't think I've ever seen a post on the top of an Andromeda figurine. Very strange.
    Title: Re: Extremely Rare Bagley Glass items
    Post by: Simba on April 22, 2018, 09:20:55 AM
    Could it be for a different type of light fitting which needed to fit in top and bottom ?? Nigel says he's owned an Andromeda with post on her head before.