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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: lychap on December 16, 2009, 01:26:50 PM

Title: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: lychap on December 16, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
Please can anyone identify this piece of glass. I believe it is 1950s' Murano and possibly Seguso. The bird is made in what I believe is termed Alabastro with mainly blue with pink breast, one of the wings pales to a whitish hue as does the tail and on the back is slightly green. The base is of a tree stump, with applied leaf/berry, the leaves have gold flecks. Stands 10" high.
Not marked and no label, the only thing which confuses me is the large indented, polished pontil which I have not seen on Murano before.
Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: soledivo on December 19, 2009, 08:43:46 PM
hi lychap,

no disrespect but the pic quality makes it difficult to have a good look. It would be all to easy to say the wrong thing, any chance of some better ones with a view from the back of the figure as well ?
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: TxSilver on December 24, 2009, 01:55:44 AM
The birddoes not strike me as being the style of Archimede Seguso. It is a beautiful bird, IMO. It does look like alabastro to me. I love the colors. Wish I could give some idea of who made it.

And yes, I am back.  ;D
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: lychap on September 09, 2013, 11:36:50 PM
Hope these pics are better  :-*
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: glassobsessed on September 10, 2013, 09:29:01 AM
Looks very nicely made to me. The colours and the way they fade one into another reminds me of a huge tree with nine birds I saw at an auction recently, that had a signature that was either Zanetti or Zanelli.

John
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: lychap on September 10, 2013, 11:14:28 AM
I went to the Zanetti site and I see what you mean, there are similarities, so I sent them an email with pics and asked whether it could be one of theirs, hope I get a response  ;D

Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: glassobsessed on September 10, 2013, 11:24:15 AM
Intriguing, please let us know what they have say.
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: shandiane78 on September 22, 2013, 07:17:19 AM
I would also look at Cenedese for this one.
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: lychap on September 24, 2013, 11:48:19 AM
Got an answer from Zanetti and it isn't one of theirs, but Damian Farnea who answered my email wondered whether it was a Pate de Verre? bird on glass base.
And...how can I tell the difference between alabastro & Pate de Verre!
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: lychap on July 19, 2019, 01:20:28 PM
Been a while, so hoping someone out there might help identify, I have seen an Elio Raffaeli bird which has a similarity it is in the murano zoo  https://sites.google.com/site/muranozoo/birds-reptiles-2/birds-9/Elio%20Raffaeli%20Bird%20Thomas%20Wilson.jpg?attredirects=0
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 19, 2019, 01:59:13 PM
It's not pate de verre.  ;D
The base looks like the bases of some Czech sculptures, but they tend to have more comical things on top, not elegant birds.
The bird does not look Czech to me. I'm stumped. :)
Title: Re: Murano or not? Alabastro bird
Post by: ardy on July 21, 2019, 11:26:09 PM
Been a while, so hoping someone out there might help identify, I have seen an Elio Raffaeli bird which has a similarity it is in the murano zoo  https://sites.google.com/site/muranozoo/birds-reptiles-2/birds-9/Elio%20Raffaeli%20Bird%20Thomas%20Wilson.jpg?attredirects=0
Just looked it up as I had not heard of the method. It is basically glass casting so not sure where that takes you if they are cast and then worked. I don't collect animals so not sure how they are made.