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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Jeffingtons on September 20, 2011, 06:35:30 PM
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Took a punt on this today, guessing that the etched mark may be a seventies caithness one. Appears to say CG but has two lines in between.
Anyone able to confirm or suggest alternatives?
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:hi:
CG is for Caithness, the II is for a "second".
It will have a tiny, (possibly imperceptible) flaw of some sort.
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That's good to know. A tiny bubble perhaps? Am I right about the period?
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Sometimes the CIIG mark was put on a piece that was experimental, or had been made in training, and was then sold in the factory shop (rather than just being a sub-standard piece). So, for instance, your example might be from someone learning how to make a spatter ground. Regarding date, I think there is little to tie it down to a particular time frame (the CIIG mark was used for a long time) - but you may well be correct with 1970s.
Alan
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That's good to know - I often have a lot of trouble finding any flaw at all on "seconds". Now I know why. :smg:
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I also thought they could be marked as a second if the design did not match the artists proof exactly . I have had a Sea Gem marked as a second that was just too big - it was about 1.5 times the usual size, but otherwise fine.
JAK
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You should be able to ID this weight on Scotlands Glass, Glass Images section, 70s and 80s mostly complete.
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Yes, Caithness Glass designated weights as "seconds" for various reasons and in many cases, without a "non-second" example to compare with, it is very hard to see what the problem was. But I don't think a single small air bubble would count as a "seconds" flaw unless it somehow obscured the look of the design.
But something like an overly large intended bubble or a weak colour in part of an otherwise acceptable weight might get it marked as a "second".
I wonder if anyone has started a collecting theme of Caithness "seconds" alongside a perfect example of the same design? :)
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:wsh: :ooh:
That would require a certain.... dedication I do not posess.
My "Edinburgh Rock" is a second. It's not faceted - I assume it being a second is why. The only "flaw" is some swirling in a bit of the clear glass dome.
I also have two "free-form" chargers, supposedly limited editions of just 250, but as they're unmarked, I have assumed they're seconds. I don't know why.