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Title: Aventurine and green weight - ID = Teign Valley Glass
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 30, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
I thought perhaps Murano when I first saw this, but the base in not ground; it has a sort of fire polished indent. Then I wondered whether it is Strathearn. Now I don't know. Any thoughts please.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: antiquerose123 on January 30, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
 :hi:

No clue here --- but still *just* trying to help if I can         (lord knows if that is possible ??   :24: )

Might it be similar to this one   ** Here     (http://media.photobucket.com/image/glass+paperweight+with+aventurine+/ThinksTwice/Blown%2520glass_1/P9060010.jpg) at all ????  or even this one   **HERE    (http://www.artiusglass.co.uk/id21.html)

Just throwing out suggestions (to try to help) ????????????
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: KevinH on January 31, 2011, 12:59:38 AM
I have one just like it! See photo below. It is 3 3/16 inch (81 mm) diameter and 2 7/8 inch (71 mm) high. The base is also fire polished and indented. Mine has some "tooling ridges" around the body near the base, partly shown in the image by the dark shadow line.

I think it was from eBay and was sold by a lady who said that her mother had visited a glassworks in north London sometime in the 1970s. Apparently, on asking if they made paperweights, the person at the counter brought out the weight and sold it to her! Name of the company ... Nazeing.

Can't recall right now when I got it but it was certainly after the Nazeing exhibition of 2003 otherwise I would have offered it for consideration of inclusion along with an older weight I have that was included.

I have not followed up on the information but I think the design ties in quite well with the "bubbles and swirly things" motif on a weight illustrated (but not very well) in the b&w image of a 1950s catalogue page from Nazeing. I first saw that page in a copy of the Monart & Vasart Collectors Club newlsetter and it was also later reproduced in the book by Geoff Timberlake produced for the "celebration of Nazeing Glass Works 1928-2003".

Now these weights have been aired in the Board, I would be pleased to learn of any other views on the Nazeing attribution, pro or con.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 31, 2011, 07:30:33 AM
Oh interesting thought Kev, thank you.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 31, 2011, 12:55:21 PM
 :hi:

Just to throw a spanner in the works, this may be completely irrelevant, but the texture of the gorgeous green colours looks very, very, very Perthshire.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 01, 2011, 06:48:09 PM
More spanners, people  ;D
I found this today - a Teign Valley Glass pw, on Ron's site.

http://www.artiusglass.co.uk/id21.html
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 01, 2011, 07:07:59 PM
I saw that too, but I think their stuff is usually signed T.V.G. (PS That price is what one might call ambitious!)
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: KevinH on February 02, 2011, 12:25:37 AM
That T.V.G. item was also linked to by Rose earlier.

I agree that TVG items are usually signed but on some it is hard to find the tiny "T.V.G" mark. But I can confirm that my weight has no signature anywhere.

It is difficult to be sure, but, even allowing for the effects of digital imaging and stated size (2.25 inch diameter) of the TVG item, I think its green is more "chunky" than in these other weights. Another point is that although they each show green and white as the actual colouring of the ground, mine and Christine's weights are much more like "jasper" than separate green and white elements, which is how I see the TVG piece.

But ... ?
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 02, 2011, 07:41:39 AM
I agree. I've looked at my TVG pear and that is blue blobs and green blobs. This is mixed green and white frit and a much finer lacy effect. The more I look at it the more I love it.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: flying free on February 02, 2011, 08:30:38 AM
I can't add anything to id this but just to say that I keep seeing that Teign Valley glass is signed, but I have bought pieces from them that definitely were not signed.  In one case I bought two of the same thing in different colours and one piece was signed and the other not.   I had a choice of pieces and quite a few of those I looked at were not signed.
m
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 02, 2011, 10:50:24 AM
Thank you. Still don't think this is TVG though
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2011, 08:58:05 PM
I have some TGV glass birds, and none of them are signed.....I don't think they always signed pieces.  There must be a lot of TVG glass that is unidentified because it has not been signed.

I hope you find the maker or your lovely paperweight Christine.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2011, 09:00:58 PM
Oooooops,  just realised I put TGV, (The fast train!!!????)  I meant TVG  :thud: Sorry! :-[
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
This: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HAND-BLOWN-GLASS-PAPERWEIGHT-TEIGN-VALLEY-DEVON-RARE-/350434451893?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item51978561b5 looks as though it could be a blue version??  (I know it isn't our favourite seller!)
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 02, 2011, 09:48:23 PM
Maybe it is then  :huh:
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: KevinH on February 02, 2011, 11:34:32 PM
The pattern of the eBay weight is similar but there are differences.

The eBay weight has tall, quite thick peaks rising from a low ground and the aventurine is large and covers the peaks as well as the ground. The whole thing looks very chunky (and I think the ground is black, not blue).

The peaks in mine and Christine's weights are worked with more finesse into a fine, flattened effect and contain whisps of white, adding to the delicacy of the whole pattern. The ground fills over half the weight.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 03, 2011, 07:42:48 AM
Yours has more ground than mine though.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2011, 12:24:05 PM
There is no positive id of the one on ebay - just the seller's attribution.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: rosieposie on February 03, 2011, 12:26:19 PM
.........and we do know that sometimes he is mistaken................... :wsh:
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 13, 2011, 05:03:49 PM
Now definitely identified by Michelle as Teign Valley Glass, as a she has a signed one.
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/14/37/17/66/100_8321.jpg
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/14/37/17/66/100_8320.jpg

 ;D Thank you again.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: jonchellycain on February 13, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
yay me  :rah:
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: rosieposie on February 13, 2011, 07:34:52 PM
 :rah: :rah: :rah: :rah: Yay Indeed Michelle!  :rah: :rah: :rah: :rah:
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 13, 2011, 08:27:26 PM
Yay michelle  :bf: too. 

See those Web pages of one another Help.  WTG !!!!  :thup:
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: KevinH on February 14, 2011, 12:09:25 AM
Ok. That's good. :)

Two things, though ...

1) Can we please see a closeup of the signature on Michelle's weight?
[Yes, I know the signatures are normally very small]

2) Anyone any idea when T.V.G. would have made these?
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight
Post by: KevinH on February 25, 2011, 12:16:06 AM
The two links above to Michelle's signed example are now showing only as a blank page for me. Have the images been taken down?

And, please ... any chance of the extra photos I requested?

Also, I see that Christine's gallery includes a similar weight in Pink (http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=583). Any more info on that one?
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight - ID = Teign Valley Glass
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 25, 2011, 07:40:23 AM
No signature on the pink one either, but it was definitely made in the same place. We might have to wait till Michelle recovers from Cambridge for her pix  ;D
Title: T.V.G Base picture for KevinH
Post by: jonchellycain on March 01, 2011, 01:59:50 PM
Hi Kevin
great to meet you on Sunday, you friend came over and had a chat about the perthshire weight  ;D
as promised here are some pics of the base of that T.V.G paperweight. Hopefully they are OK, had to talc the base to get the lettering to stand out enough. The photo of the whole weight was taken a while ago.
I will get the photo tent out later and get some better pic in there, if you wanted to use the pictures for anything
I give permission for you to use them in anyway you want
michelle

Mod: Michelle's pics now added to Glass Gallery images under the KevH album
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-15039
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-15038
Title: Re: T.V.G Base picture for KevinH
Post by: KevinH on March 02, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Excellent, Michelle, thanks.:hiclp:

The signature ties in well with that on a small T.V.G vase I have.

I will merge this thread with the main one about these weights. I will also take a copy of your pics and put them in the Glass Gallery (and update your links to point to them) so we can retain them with the original discussion as proof of ID and for future reference.
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight - ID = Teign Valley Glass
Post by: tropdevin on March 02, 2011, 07:35:59 AM
***

I had a blue version of this design some time ago, which had a Teign Valley label on the base - I was never sure whether the label belonged to the weight, but it seems that it did!

Alan
Title: Re: Aventurine and green weight - ID = Teign Valley Glass
Post by: brewster on June 13, 2012, 12:07:57 PM
I know I'm a bit late joining in, but here is a blue TVG paperweight in the same design we purchased last (Australian) summer from an 'antiques' shop in Ballina, NSW. In my haste, I thought it said TAG, the signature of Tricia Allen Glass - an artist from near Melbourne who died far too young a couple of years ago. It took some time to realise my mistake and figure out what it really said. I'm pleased to see the green and pink ones here.

Trevor