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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: incazzatonero on October 13, 2012, 04:27:02 PM

Title: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: incazzatonero on October 13, 2012, 04:27:02 PM
On Ebay runs
Artikelnummer: 380481291996
or
http://www.ebay.de/itm/380481291996?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649

Does everybody knows the different between Bigaglia and Franchini?
What are the criteria to be able to distinguish?
And this weight, is it Franchini or Bigaglia (as Paolo from Italia noticed, it is Bigaglia/ look at the end of the description).

Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: alpha on October 14, 2012, 02:54:56 PM
Based on the large amount of "school bus" yellow (which is generally not a 19th century color) I would have said that this was AVeM from the 1950's, and not Bigaglia, Franchini, or antique Venetian.
Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: incazzatonero on October 14, 2012, 04:26:45 PM
I have very much glass items and paperweights from "arte vetraia muranese".
One  Muranopaperweights from the 1960s you will find under:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/330804819000?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
but the weight we are talking about is not the same!
I have a similar weight in my collection (see pictures) and the weight is 100% antique muranese!
Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: Nexxo on October 15, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
hi incacchiato nero (?)

I guess it's not a Bigaglia for m,any reasons and also class it's too clear  .- As far as I know Franchini didn't made "pressa carte" but just canes that were used by many makers and among the also PBigaglia

goog luck

Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: tropdevin on October 17, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
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I thought that the older (ie 19th C) Murano weights were all relatively dull colours, of modest quality glass, and had unfinished bases.  For me, any with canes in bright, solid colours and flat polished bases are 1950s onwards.

Alan
Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: Nexxo on October 17, 2012, 04:15:49 PM
Hi Alan

correct Maestro and thanks
base was usually finished just cutting  pointil base
also aventurine is not the one of PB

rgds

gianluigi
Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: incazzatonero on October 19, 2012, 03:43:46 PM
Hi Alan and Gialuigi!
Of course: you are both one of the bests!
Sicuro: i maestri!
The item is maybe not Bigaglia or Franchini, but quite sure: 19th century Murano!!!
Why?
- the item has a concave base and the ringstand has many different scratches from a long time use.
- the weight has an old  break/ tear on the base.
- the weight has some unevenness on the glass-surface  from the old production.
- the vitreous is tinged an not as clear as items from the 20th century.


Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: flying free on October 19, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
Gianluigi do you mean Pietro Bigaglio weights do not include aventurine please?
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Title: Re: Antik Murano: Pietro Bigaglia or Giovanni Franchini, that is here the question!?
Post by: alpha on October 27, 2012, 06:32:36 PM
For comparison purposes, here is an example of an antique Venetian scrambled paperweight:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181007522029