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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: selina on November 17, 2007, 11:21:20 PM
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Hi,
Bought this set and put them together in the pic as the previous owner told me they should go. Im guessing they could be separated or reversed also.
The large bowl is 29.5cm across top, 10cm high. Marked Reg.No. 798828
The smaller bowl is 17cm high x 14cm across the top. Four feet. Marked on one of the feet Reg.No. 798828. On the base is TCHECOSLOVAQUIE.
Unusual spelling?
Any thoughts on this appreciated as to the maker, pattern and if they are meant to go together. Thanks
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I'm sure the pieces are meant to go together, the patterns match and the bowl appears to have four depressions to accept the feet of the vase/ base. The 'Tchecoslovaquie' mark is usually found on glass intended for export to France.
The registration number would date to late 1934, I would suspect the design was registered by the UK importer/ distributor, it should be possible to look it up.
As to maker, I would hazard a guess at Inwald but this is based more on instinct than any hard facts. Hopefully Glen or Marcus will be able to add more.
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One of a batch of registration numbers dated 18 Dec 1934*, registered by Hoskins Rose, *number range on that date was from #798822-#798828. Hoskins Rose was an importer - we discussed some of their other designs and their whereabouts here: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1707.0.html
Source for RD # date/name is the Blue Book (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8680.0.html)
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Thanks Steven & Anne :)
The other topic was interesting to read. So we know they were the importers but not who the maker was. Ive had a suggestion that my one could be a punch bowl? Will make a stunning table centrepiece either way.
Selina
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Just a brief note as I am a bit rushed:
I think the items were made by Josef Rindskopf's Sons (probably at Teplice). The pattern style and the overall shapes of the items are very typical and totally characteristic of Rindskopf. I doubt it was meant to be a punch set - I would further doubt that there were cups to match. Much more likely is that both items were meant to be multi-functional (sold better that way!) So you have a vase and a bowl, or put them together (in two ways....vase above or below) and you have an "epergne" and a table centre for fruit, flowers etc. There is probably a sugar bowl too, that could be used to make yet another clever shape.
For more on Rindskopf:
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/RindskopfHome.html
Glen
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Glen,
Thank you again! Im so glad I put the set on here. Ive loved looking at your site and reading all the information. I must admit I also only associated Rindskopkf with one style of glass. What an eye opener and an interesting family story also.
Selina
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Hi all,
I have this now identified as Libochovice a.s.
Flared bowl is pattern number 1822/290, and the bowl was also sold as a in-turned variant, pattern number 1822/240.
Base is pattern number 1827/160.
Given the Hoskins Rose RD no, and the increasingly regular connection between Hoskins Rose and Libochovice, this is beginning to suggest that Hoskins Rose were main importers for Libochovice a.s,
Regards,
Marcus
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Thanks Marcus :)
I'll make a note of that.
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I have an identical set which belonged to my Grandmother. My mother was going to throw it out because it wasn't English glass and presumed it was worthless. Can anyone give me some idea of value, please? Reg no. is 798828. Many thanks.
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Values are pretty subjective and many here can't or won't give them for various reasons: condition, market place, and other factors affect what a piece will bring on the day.
It won't be worthless, but what you get for it will depend on who wants it - if two or more people chase it it could do well for you.
If I was buying such a set I'd be willing to pay around £20-30 if it is in perfect condition but I am a bargain hound and others may go higher!
Any damage at all reduces its value considerably though, and glass collectors are very picky about damage, so do declare even the slightest thing.
Hope this helps. :)
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excited to see the image from Selina about her glass items. :rah:
I have the same dish and yes the vase type do gotogether,
unfortunatly, I dont have the vase type bottom, with the little legs :cry:
the set used to sit in the middle of our table when i was young
I would love to be able to get hold of the bottom part,
Thank you for the info about this glass
It has the reg no . 798828
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Hi petrene and welcome to the board. If you pop a note into our Market Place forum saying what you're looking for you may find that one of the members has one they may be willing to part with. The one I have is a different pattern so not useful for you. (Mine's a Nemsova piece.)
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Thank you for your info, will do that...
Petrene.