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Title: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 17, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
The name Bimi came into my head when I found this in a charity shop today? Any ideas? It has 3 canes & what what I describe as adventurine running through it.

It was a bargain but has a chip to the underside of the rim under one of the canes.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/WhiteRose1649/DSC00211.jpg
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: flying free on January 17, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
I'm not sure what it is but I have two in different colours that were bought for me from TK Maxx about 18mths ago.  I thought they had a label but I can't think I would have peeled it off so perhaps not.  I've always thought they aren't Murano glass -  I thought maybe Polish, but that might have just been the colours of mine and the way it swirled.
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Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: Max on January 17, 2011, 09:59:47 PM
Were you thinking Bimini?  Perhaps you were recalling their snake forms.

Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 18, 2011, 12:54:27 AM
Were you thinking Bimini?  Perhaps you were recalling their snake forms.


Sory english isnt my first language and i often spell things as they would traslate into my native language.

Yes I was thinking Bimini, surely these arnt polish? The quality is far to good for Kronso or other sutch work.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 18, 2011, 10:25:00 AM
Krosno is high quality stuff!  These flower thingys seem to be popping up new all over; some are recycled Spanish glass, others are not. Chinese seems more likely for these if they have canes and aventurine (though I can't actually see any aventurine. A side on shot against a plain background would be helpful).
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 18, 2011, 11:41:36 AM
I'm fairly sure these are Chinese Murano. I've seen these in TKMaxx, with labels.
Shugdens,  :thud: I wouldn't have known english wasn't your first language at all - you have an incredible command of it!

Do not say one word against Krosno glass, though.  >:D It's fabulous stuff.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: tam bam on January 18, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
I believe these types of flowers are Italian, just not Murano.  Here is a similar one I found.  I too have seen these flowers in TJ Maxx also with the same labels on them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROSE-MURANO-ARTGLASS-FLOWER-Italian-Italy-Glasses-/310268863959?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483d7725d7

tam bam
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 18, 2011, 02:36:12 PM
Without a label, they could be from anywhere, including the one on ebay, which doesn't actually say who the manufacturer was. Murano and Italy have much more selling power as keywords than China or Russia or Romania.

I think what we're saying is it's newish.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 18, 2011, 03:25:39 PM
I'm fairly sure these are Chinese Murano. I've seen these in TKMaxx, with labels.
Shugdens,  :thud: I wouldn't have known english wasn't your first language at all - you have an incredible command of it!

Do not say one word against Krosno glass, though.  >:D It's fabulous stuff.

We learn English along side Hebrew in school & i've lived in the UK since I was young, not that I'm that old anyway  :sun: I just tend to spell english as its sounded rather than spely as you would with hebrew.
I speak german, spanish & a little arabic as well.

I flog all this lot on the market, i'm a little disheartend with glass today.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 18, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Bimini glass is incredibly fine and delicate - and mostly miniature.
 :D
I knew Hebrew is a much more straightforward language than english - when I was studying reading development and disorders, I found a fascinating paper on dyslexia in Hebrew schools and compared it with the findings in english. There were several proposed sub-types of dyslexia from english cognitive psychology  :-X
researchers (something I did not agree with - they do not study the brain or it's growth and development). As these subtypes were not found in Hebrew, the proposed subtypes were clearly an artifact of the stupid and irreglar features of the english language, and of poor reading skills, not evidence of lots of different sorts of dyslexia.

This gave me the freedom to discuss the problems from the proper perspective - that of brain development. :rah:
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 18, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
Bimini glass is incredibly fine and delicate - and mostly miniature.
 :D
I knew Hebrew is a much more straightforward language than english - when I was studying reading development and disorders, I found a fascinating paper on dyslexia in Hebrew schools and compared it with the findings in english. There were several proposed sub-types of dyslexia from english cognitive psychology  :-X
researchers (something I did not agree with - they do not study the brain or it's growth and development). As these subtypes were not found in Hebrew, the proposed subtypes were an artifact of the stupid and irreglar features of the english language, and of poor reading skills, not evidence of lots of different sorts of dyslexia.

This gave me the freedom to discuss the problems from the proper perspective - that of brain development. :rah:

II've never herd of dyslexia in hebrew, english is a silly language. I think the rebelion on txt speak shows this. dyalects & the break down of queens english also shows this.


I'll get my money back for it on the market tomorow, I was hoping for £10 for it if it was murano
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: tam bam on January 18, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
I have a couple of pieces with the same label as the pink flower I provided the link to and the labels read "Made in Italy".  I believe these pieces are made in Italy but not Murano as the company would like for you to believe.  I think Anita has done some research on this type of glass and their labels but was never able to pin point where exactly in Italy the glass is made for certain. There are so many glass producers in Italy. 

Here is a better pic of the label on another flower I found.  http://cgi.ebay.com/LAVORAZIONE-ARTE-MURANO-SHADED-BLUE-HAND-BLOWN-FLOWER-/300513183580?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f7fb475c

tam bam
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 18, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
I have a couple of pieces with the same label as the pink flower I provided the link to and the labels read "Made in Italy".  I believe these pieces are made in Italy but not Murano as the company would like for you to believe.  I think Anita has done some research on this type of glass and their labels but was never able to pin point where exactly in Italy the glass is made for certain. There are so many glass producers in Italy. 

Here is a better pic of the label on another flower I found.  http://cgi.ebay.com/LAVORAZIONE-ARTE-MURANO-SHADED-BLUE-HAND-BLOWN-FLOWER-/300513183580?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f7fb475c

tam bam
I had a beautiful rainbow glass plate by this company some years ago, it had a  LAVORAZIONE ARTE MURANO sticker to it. i have a photo of it somewhere. it stayed in my own collection for a while.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 18, 2011, 08:36:30 PM
I had a beautiful rainbow glass plate by this company some years ago, it had a  LAVORAZIONE ARTE MURANO sticker to it. i have a photo of it somewhere. it stayed in my own collection for a while.
If anyone is a facebook friend of Dominic Fonde the excellent glass artist & blower, there is a photo of the piece behind two of his vases on his facebook page.
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: tam bam on January 18, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
I'll check that out.  Thanks, Shugdens. 

tam bam
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 19, 2011, 12:33:37 AM
I'll check that out.  Thanks, Shugdens.  

tam bam
My mistake the rainbow plate was ''La Arte Murano'' but I remember there was also a small bowl in the lot labled LAVORAZIONE ARTE MURANO agin it had the adventurine like the flower has. I think its in a photo I have on my ebay page.

Please do check Dominics work hes a great glass artist, I think hes back working in the UK again, in Scotland. Hes been working in Singapore for a few years.

Its not there but the plate is, as well as 3 Perthshire perfume bottles & I think a Kralik vase & an Alum Bay vase. It was taken about 3 years ago.
http://members.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=erotix-ku
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: TxSilver on January 19, 2011, 02:42:47 PM
I agree with Tami that this is one of the pieces that often carry the Lavorazione Arte Murano label. The way the color swirls in the piece is like ones I've seen a lot. I was able to track a few of the pieces that have this label to Naples, but it may be that the glass comes from a variety of places. I just consider the label a generic one that means "art glass made in the style of Murano."

Many of the snake-footed flower vases come out of Oklahoma in the US. These tend to be more gawdy.

Bimini glass is impossibly fine and delicate. One always knows when they are handling Bimini. I don't buy it because it feels like it is going to break without any provocation at all. Much too fragile for me!
Title: Re: Bimi? ID
Post by: shugdens on January 19, 2011, 06:17:12 PM
I agree with Tami that this is one of the pieces that often carry the Lavorazione Arte Murano label. The way the color swirls in the piece is like ones I've seen a lot. I was able to track a few of the pieces that have this label to Naples, but it may be that the glass comes from a variety of places. I just consider the label a generic one that means "art glass made in the style of Murano."

Many of the snake-footed flower vases come out of Oklahoma in the US. These tend to be more gawdy.

Bimini glass is impossibly fine and delicate. One always knows when they are handling Bimini. I don't buy it because it feels like it is going to break without any provocation at all. Much too fragile for me!

Could it be a company based in Italy having there glass made overseas?

I know the Bimini animals & have had tons of them, I love them but they dont last long...