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Title: Monart shape TA
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2013, 07:01:48 PM
Got this tall elegant(10.5 inches) TA shaped vase at my local auction. It has been a good month or so for my collection with this being the third shape that I don't have.
Gary
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: luckyslap on May 20, 2013, 04:08:08 PM
Gary,
I have just had a look in the cupboard upstairs, I could offer you a matching vase with complete W2 ware label  ;)

ps Unfortunately it's colour code 96 so I will just have to keep it.  ;D
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 20, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
nice piece Gary, thats the second piece ive seen like this over the weekend exactaly the same, Keith put a pic of your up please and pic of the label , you dont see W2 labeled pieces very often
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: Gary on May 21, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
ps Unfortunately it's colour code 96 so I will just have to keep it.  ;D
Thats a pity Keith I have not got a piece with that colour code  :).
nice piece Gary, thats the second piece ive seen like this over the weekend exactaly the same, Keith put a pic of your up please and pic of the label , you dont see W2 labeled pieces very often
Thanks Gary, below is an image of my one and only W2 labeled piece, Z shape ginger jar with colour code 156.
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 21, 2013, 07:55:24 PM
very nice ginger jar, i will have to look mones out and put it on display, though its just basic green with the blue slighty through ti if i remember , it does have a full label , come on Keith post a pic then,
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 21, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
Gary dont know how to break this to you but your label isnt a W2 its a W3 label :-[ ::)
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: luckyslap on May 21, 2013, 09:39:03 PM
I was just about to make comment when you replied Millarart. However as you requested here is the W2 label from the TA vase. Not perfect but good enough. :)

Keith
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: Gary on May 21, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
You are right Gary it is W3 ware label, got that wrong  :-[. Though I do have a W1 label on a A shaped vase colour code 56.
Gary
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 21, 2013, 09:43:19 PM
Lol, W1 and W3 are quite common for Ware labels but W2 is the rare one, very nice Keith to see pic of yours, oh and Gary i sent you an email ;D
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 22, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
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ok im thinking i worded the above wrong, the Ware labels arent common, i meant out of the three Ware labels used W1 and W3 are the ones seen the most with W2 being the rarest out of the Wares to have been seen, thought id better say this before someone picks up on it, i myself aint that bothered if a piece is labeled or not as long as i like the piece, but guess it helps age a piece when they are labeled and if colour coded the all the better, specially when its a colour unknown, though saying that i think in a few cases unless theres more than one of the same colourway with a label stating the same code then how do you know its the correct code for that colourway as in the past myself and am sure most of us owns or has came across a labeled piece with the wrong colour code on it,  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 22, 2013, 05:51:26 AM
Keith very nice label , nice to see a pic of it on a piece, have you any more W2 labels? Gary me want to use the picture if you allow him for his label /colourcode research which will help all collectors put a colour code to their unlabeled pieces in the future
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: luckyslap on May 22, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
The picture is free to use by anyone.

Keith
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: millarart on May 23, 2013, 12:55:48 PM
The picture is free to use by anyone.

Keith
very good of you
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: Gary on May 23, 2013, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from Millarart.
"though saying that i think in a few cases unless theres more than one of the same colourway with a label stating the same code then how do you know its the correct code for that colourway as in the past myself and am sure most of us owns or has came across a labeled piece with the wrong colour code on it,"
With my research into colour codes, I only designate a colour code if the label has a colour code, with the some proviso, the label is not fake, the shape and size codes corresponds with the Monart catalogue.
If two labeled piece with a different colour scheme but the same colour code came to light further investigation would be required.
The images below is a case where I have not as yet designated a colour code of 391 to this particular colour scheme. The bowl is shape MA, though on the label it has written 4/25(I think it is 4), the size code (V11) on the label does not correspond with the Monart catalogue. This piece is from Perth museum collection.

The picture is free to use by anyone.
Keith

Thanks Keith if possible could you post or email me a photo of vase, so I can document them together.
Gary
Title: Re: Monart shape TA
Post by: luckyslap on May 23, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Hi Gary,
I will try and take a couple of pictures for you, I think I may still have your address.

Keith  :)