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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: Bernard C on May 01, 2014, 08:58:25 AM
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See four images, each with click to enlarge feature, via http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-19862
Nicely made 3-piece set in pink, h. 17cm 7", d. 25cm 10", w. 879g 1lb 15oz. Festooned with roses, she has a Dutch close-fitting hat and pointed wooden clogs. I am not sure whether this is an iconic image of a Dutch girl from within the Netherlands or from a foreign viewpoint (like all Frenchmen wearing berets and strings of onions and riding old bicycles).
I would be grateful for any details of maker, dates, &c. Oddly I can't recall meeting this Dutch Flower girl before.
Thanks for your interest,
Bernard C. 8)
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1930s Walther Holländerin in a Walther bowl. You should be able to find the bowl on http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de but you may need to look beyond bowls for the range or here http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-VEB-Sachsenglas.24.0.html
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1930s Walther Holländerin in a Walther bowl. ...
Christine — Thanks. It is not obvious from my pictures, but there is a locating ring on the upper side of the bowl that fits the flower block exactly, so it's not just any Walther bowl but the correct one that is part of the centrepiece set. Pamela only shows the figurine and block, so I am wondering whether she has the bowl elsewhere, perhaps as unidentified, not having made the connection. I couldn't find the set in the Walther catalogues.
Bernard C. 8)
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A lot of the Walther centrepices pieces are mix and match. I have my Arabella in a Pelikan bowl, which she fits perfectly, but that is not standard, which is why I suggested looking for the bowl or its range separately.
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It's a Seydlitz (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1935-SONDERANGEBOT.22+B6YmFja1BJRD0yMiZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Njk1JnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTIyJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html) bowl, which Pamela doesn't appear to have in any form. Seydlitz appears in the 1935 and 1937 catalogues
but Black Poppy (http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/Walther_-_Centre_Pieces/photo1312.htm) does
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Bernard, thank you for the alert :-*
I have always preferred a Dutch girl in her 'Groningen' bowl (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Sachsenglas-1953.212+B6YmFja1BJRD0yMTImcHJvZHVjdElEPTg4OTEmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MjEyJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html) with matt rose leaf pattern, but as Christine points out, any mix-and-match is fine:
Walther 1935 catalogue: page 110a - Dutch girl in PRIMUS bowl; page 111a - Dutch girl in WRANGEL bowl.
Walther 1936 catalogue: page 2 - Dutch girl in GRONINGEN bowl plus centrepiece HAARLEM with roses pattern and Groningen bowl on top.
Walther 1965 catalogue page 49: GRONINGEN (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/VEB-Sachsenglas-1965.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mjc3MiZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD03MyZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)
page 56: MARGIT (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/VEB-Sachsenglas-1965.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mjc2NSZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD03MyZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)
page 64: LÜTTICH (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/VEB-Sachsenglas-1965.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9Mjc1NiZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD03MyZkZXRhaWw9.0.html)
SEYDLITZ: certainly I've got a small plate and the creamer - not sure at the moment whether a larger bowl also.
Walther's 1935 catalogue states Seydlitz as undeliverable.
:)
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Christine and Pamela — Thanks. Sowerby, Jobling, and Bagley did similar mixes and matches, so nothing at all strange about Walther doing it as well.
I'm not sure whether you're saying that my set is pre-war, post-war or could be either.
Bernard C. 8)
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Late 1930s I would say, as Seydlitz seems to have had a limited life
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Thought I’d post this picture as there’s few green uranium ones around. A complete set Walther & Sohne “Haarlem” With “Hollanderin” Dutch lady oh and two glass lion guardians as she’s precious.
Cheers