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Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Tony H on March 15, 2005, 08:01:10 AM
Hi Everyone
I have just got this piece today and I am not sure what it is for, my first choice was for a Flower Center (frog!!) there are no marks, has very good detail, smooth satin finish.
Has anyone seen this one and can help with ID.

Tony H.
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Bernard C on March 15, 2005, 08:55:16 AM

Looks like Jobling "Crinoline Lady" # 2597 by Etienne Franckhauser, Rd. No. 799632 of 23 Jan 1935, listed in the 1937 trade catalogue in green, blue, amber and pink, satin finish.  Usually sold with matching block, floating bowl # 2596 Rd. No. 801662 of 30 March 1935, and jet plinth.   The set's very high factory gate trade price of 9/3 may explain its rarity.

The bowl is an elegant low curved shape.   The plinth is similar to the large version found with other Jobling sets, but, if my recollection is correct, it has a reversed fitting, i.e. a raised central area around which the footring of the bowl fits.

I think both Sunderland Museum and Broadfield House Glass Museum have examples in their collections.

I sourced from Baker & Crowe.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Tony H on March 15, 2005, 08:12:22 PM
Hi Bernard
Thank you for your help, have a look at this link  this is from a Jobling catalogue sometime in the 1930s

Crinoline Lady No 2596/7 does this mean there are two lady's as you give the No 2596 as a floating bowl, and my lady is not like the one in the catalogue, also what does the flower block look like.

Who are Barker and Crowe.
Tony H
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2005, 08:45:47 PM
Baker & Crowe: A Collectors Guide to Jobling 1930s Decorative Glass
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Bernard C on March 16, 2005, 04:56:15 AM
Thanks, guest.

Tony, that image you have put up is the picture from a 1937 or later trade catalogue, also reproduced in Baker & Crowe, with all the text replaced by an abbreviated version.   Why someone did that is a mystery to me!   It cannot be for copyright reasons as the 1937 catalogue came out of copyright at midnight on Dec. 31 1986, assuming its launch in time for the season starting Christmas 1936.   Its reproduction in Baker & Crowe does not change its copyright status.

Images in the Jobling trade catalogues are just artist's drawings, not photographs, and so vary in quality and accuracy.  That is why I started "Looks like ...", in case it is not a Jobling crinoline lady.

I was going to suggest that you contact the two museums with your query, but that seemed like a fairly obvious next step, so I felt it unnecessary to say so.

Please let us know how you get on.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Tony H on March 22, 2005, 07:38:19 PM
Hi Heveryone

I sent an email to Broadfield House with a photo of my Crinoline Lady, here is a copy of the reply.

Dear Tony Hodgson

Thanks for your email about your crinoline lady figurine.

I have looked at your photograph and, as you say, there are considerable differences between your crinoline lady and the one illustrated in the Jobling catalogue (presume you are referring to the catalogue published by Tyne and Wear Museums in 1985?).  I doubt whether Jobling would have produced two different models, so my feeling is that your figurine is unlikely to have been made by Jobling.  Jobling got quite a few of their ideas for pressed glass from the continent of Europe, so I suspect that your figurine is probably a continental example, perhaps Czechoslovakian, which Jobling used as the inspiration for their own version.

We have one of the Jobling crinoline ladies in our collection, and I attach a photograph.  The figure is 9.5 ins high (24 cms) and is not marked.

I hope this information is of use.  

Yours sincerely

Roger Dodsworth
Broadfield House Glass Museum
Stourbridge, UK

PS Sorry, can't attach the image because of technical problems.  Will do so when sorted out.    

I will post a copy of the photo when Roger sends it.

Tony H.
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Tony H on April 11, 2005, 07:33:52 AM
Hi everyone
Update to our Crinoline Lady, so far no photo from Roger at Broadfield House.

My wife and I went to a street market on Sunday morning in Cambridge (NZ) and look what I found.

another Crinoline Lady, this one has a basket of flowers at her waist, her hair is not the same also her dress, but they are the same, in the way they are made, if this makes sence.

Here they are together.

Both are 6" high and 3" in diameter at the base, flower basket weighs 0.480kgs shawl weighs 0.484kgs

Jobling Crinoline Lady is 9 & 1/2  ins.
Has anyone any ideas on who made these?

Tony H
Title: Glass Crinoline Lady
Post by: Glen on April 11, 2005, 07:44:01 AM
Tony, I can't provide the info on who made these ladies, but I can tell you that I own the twin sister to the one you purchased yesterday! Mine is identical in every way to your Lady #2 and was found in the UK.