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Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on June 22, 2005, 02:20:44 AM
Thought I would make a new topic just for labels, that way we dont have to look around into other topics for references to them... I would like for everyone to participate in this and maybe explain where the label was from, if you have reference to it (year, book, glasshouse), and anything else you think appropriate.
Lets try and have clear photos of intact labels if possible, so everything is readable and we dont get confused. I will post some labels, but hope we get more people to participate, like on the "Favorite Murano Piece" theard!
We can make this a Sticky topic if you guys want. Would like the feedback.
Thanks again!
Javier

UPDATE: Label images can be uploaded to the special album for thisd thread on Glass Gallery:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=102
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Max on June 22, 2005, 10:04:26 AM
Javier,  Without looking through the summerhouse of horrors, here's the only sticker I can find.  

http://tinypic.com/67p4zm.jpg

You can blame Ray for this one, it was his first.   :wink:  :D

PS:  Sorry I have no idea about Murano stickers, I think I need a bit of help.   :(
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: CathyG on June 22, 2005, 02:27:13 PM
These are the ones I have at this time. I just can't seem to get closer without the picture getting blurry so I had to take them farther out, I hope their ok. The first one is from a Ribbon Canne decanter, the second is from a Cenedese Sommerso decanter and the last one is from Vilca, a fairly new piece with the designers name attached.

CathyG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/glass47/cenedesestickier.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/glass47/sticker.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/glass47/Vilca002.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on June 22, 2005, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: "Max"
Javier,  Without looking through the summerhouse of horrors, here's the only sticker I can find.  

http://tinypic.com/67p4zm.jpg


Hi Max,
I have those 2 labels on a few pieces, pretty much intact, so I will post them in a bit. Have to find the pieces first.

... and Cathy, Thanks for the pics!
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: KevinH on June 22, 2005, 10:40:17 PM
Lifted from the message by Cathy B, "Is this anything interesting ...?"

The label: http://tinypic.com/4rf38p

The item (generic giftware): http://tinypic.com/4rf30o
Title: Venini Label
Post by: lenore on June 23, 2005, 12:12:35 AM
Here is a Venini label. Clear plastic with black print. And, a pic of the piece. Wish we had saved the pics we had of some other labels we had.
Lenore
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/alavintage1/veninibowllabel.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/alavintage1/veninibowl.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Laura Friedman on June 23, 2005, 02:44:43 AM
I have a big photo library of labels and signatures. Let me know what you want to see and if I have it, I'll post a picture.

It is true that most of the labels one sees are "generic" import labels. They can help pin down era of production, but rarely manufacturer.  

Laura
Title: murano labels
Post by: chuggy on June 23, 2005, 07:34:57 PM
Here's the most common of the Archemede Seguso "Made in Italy" labels
and the Seguso label it was most commonly used in conjunction with.
Date from early 1960's through the mid 1970's.


http://tinypic.com/68wv9h.jpg

http://tinypic.com/68wvm0.jpg
Paul
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on June 23, 2005, 10:37:16 PM
Here are a few pics of labels...

This is the label Peter was asking about in an earlier post
http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jicolabel.jpg


http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/barbinilabel.jpg

http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/salviatilabel.jpg

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on June 23, 2005, 10:46:18 PM
And this one from the "Pauly & C." topic I posted earlier
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1935
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on June 26, 2005, 11:21:18 AM
Thanks Javier
Great pics. But in the ones where the maker is named there's not much guessing to be done. Are there any which don't say the name of the maker but which are associated with a particular company ?

Ventian / Murano
Does Venetian necessarily mean Murano ?
With the Barbini one you show it would seem so ...unless Barbini has production facilities off Murano ...do they ?

Anyone know anything about the Yellow Scroll label ?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on June 26, 2005, 09:44:45 PM
Hello Peter,
Most times the labels are worn down and some are just partially there, so I thought it was good to have the actual labels presented here. I have been able to buy many pieces in the past by just seeing what the partial labels look like, their shapes, and recignizing who they are from. I really dont think we should limit ourselves on the labels posted here, as they can help many of us. I'll be posting more labels later on...

On the yellow scroll label, I really do not know it, and havent seen it before. Hope someone else has some info on it for you.

Javier
Title: 101 labels
Post by: chuggy on June 27, 2005, 02:38:46 PM
On the alabastre glass, I've also got a great Seguso vase in it pictured below with the same labels as the pheasant. Very Scandinavian in design and most unlike Seguso in shape.

http://tinypic.com/6fvxnk.jpg

Paul
Title: Barovier & Toso
Post by: David E on June 29, 2005, 07:58:18 AM
Hi all,

A bit late joining this thread - very busy.

Following are a couple of labels from Barovier & Toso that can be reliably dated to 1973 – these 'weights have a central cane with the date!  :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/paperweights/t-barovier-toso01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/paperweights/barovier-toso01.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/paperweights/t-barovier-toso03.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/paperweights/barovier-toso03.jpg)

Click either image for more detail. I have more labels that I'll post later.

Javier, it did occur to me that some of these posted images are on TinyPic or PhotoBucket which only have a limited life (these included): could I suggest they are all saved and plonked on someone's server as permanent reminders? I don't mind handling them, if required.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 05, 2005, 12:04:37 AM
Here are a few other interesting labels...

This 2 are from an Avem piece. I really like the silver label, very intricate.

http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/avemlabels.jpg

This one came from what I think is a Barovier piece.

http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/venicelabel.jpg

And this one, which I believe is an earlier version of the Seguso scalloped label, with an Italic "y." I would very much like to have any info on this one, if someone else knows the time period when it was used.

http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/madeitalics.jpg

...........................

DenCill,
Thanks for bringing it to our attention that the images from TinyPic and PhotoBucket have a "limited" life. I will try and gather them together and put a special page later on where they can be looked at.
For now I would really want them to be posted here.
Thanks again!
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 05, 2005, 07:11:56 AM
Thanks Javier
Those are very interesting.
The silver and green one from Copenahgen shows that some importer / retailers labels can be interesting in themselves and help with provenance if not ID.

Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 05, 2005, 08:10:29 AM
Found another one - Maestri Vetrai
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avalonsmile/newshots196-1.jpg)
I'm having difficulty pining down this company.
There was one called
Cappellin, M.V.M. (Maestri Vetrai Muranese Cappellin)
which closed in 1931
Murano Magic says that the trademarks and designs were sold to Gaetano Ceschina

There is what would appear to be the old version of of this company's label here http://www.burchardgalleries.com/auctions/2004/feb2204/01images/l33.htm
 
Anyone know anything about the modern incarnation of this company ??
Title: L Nason & DSV
Post by: David E on July 05, 2005, 09:56:54 AM
Another two labels for consideration, although they do throw up a slight anomoly.

These are what I call 'Clam Dishes' due to the shape and are unusual as they have two ground and polished bases for placing upright or on their side.

Click any photo to enlarge

This first photo shows the three I have:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/clam-labels01.jpg)

The next shows a rather worn, but virtually intact label and is on the blue/amber one to the right. This shows L. Nason as the maker:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels02.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/clam-labels02.jpg)

This is on the small green/amber one. The initials are either 'DSV' or 'SDV'. Any help on this would be appreciated.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels03.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/clam-labels03.jpg)

I suppose these demonstrate how makers would often copy each others designs, particularly if they proved popular. Unfortunately the red/amber one is not labelled.

I also have several 'V. Nason & C' labels that I will have to post — unfortunately I believe they closed down recently. This is the firm of Vincenzo Nason, who I believe was originally part of the Nason & Moretti group (comprising many members from each family) and probably related to L. Nason. There are other Nason makers; Ermanno being famous for his modernistic glass sculptures in the 1960s.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 05, 2005, 10:01:08 AM
Details of a book on Ermanno Nason can be seen at:

http://www.theglass.it/book.htm
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: glasswizard on July 05, 2005, 09:41:03 PM
Peter, I have several pieces of Maestri Vetrai. With one I got a little card. Here is their website http://www.azzurrasrl.it/ Hope you speak Italian. Terry
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 06, 2005, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: "paradisetrader"
... Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ?


Hi Peter,
Yea I have, some with just numbers written in pen, or typed numbers.
I have 2 or 3 pieces with actual prices, and labels intact, but I packed those up a while ago. They are a Barbini lighter set of 3 pieces, and on the labels underneath they were priced at $6 each in pencil. Which was their original price in the 50's. Unfortunately I never got around to take photos of them. Since they were in Mint condition I decided to packed them back up.
I'll see what other labels I have with written numbers on them and I'll post them. Usually they would be gereric paper labels with just "Made in Italy" on them.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 07, 2005, 05:28:36 AM
Quote from: "Max"
Javier,  Without looking through the summerhouse of horrors, here's the only sticker I can find.  

http://tinypic.com/67p4zm.jpg


Hi Max,
Here are the labels... I couldnt find the piece that has both of them intact, but this one has the 2 labels in very good shape.

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gfaflabl.jpg)


Here is another label, underneath a Seguso "style" fish on pedestal.

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/firenze.jpg)

Im unsure what the 1st part is, but the last part seems to be "nuova" and "firenze" underneath.

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 07, 2005, 05:30:53 PM
Firenze is Italian for Florence, so I imagine it was made there.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 07, 2005, 07:02:07 PM
Thanks David,
I kind of firgured that one out, but wndered what the first letters in front of "-------nuova" are. Any guess? Im afraid that was the best photo I could take. The green is a bit faded so its also silvery like the letters so its pretty hard to read.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 07, 2005, 07:54:11 PM
From what I can make out, it reads:

3vigndnuova

'nuova' is new, but the rest doesn't scan. Is that a '3' at the beginning?

But I'm also wondering if the large central 'K' could mean anything significant? Any Florentine glass makers beginning with 'K'?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 08, 2005, 06:43:26 AM
Hi David,
Yea it looks like a 3, maybe a B or a Z? I know in German the Z can look a bit like a 3, but no idea if in Italian it is used the same way. Maybe someone out there knows a bit more Italian or has come across the label. Also have no idea what the "K" is, the gallery logo?

Quote from: "paradisetrader"
... Have you come across any plain paper makers labels with just a product number ? or original price on them ? maybe with a company name written in pen ?


Hi Peter, Here's some of them

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/madeinitaly.jpg)

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/rectangle.jpg)

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/segusorectngle.jpg)

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Connie on July 08, 2005, 08:22:26 AM
Maybe the mark is Bvigndnuova like  Bvlgari  (http://store.nordstrom.com/category/boutique0.asp?category=2377897~2383939~2383192&origin=brandslist) One of the hot designers right now (helps to have a teenage fashionista)  :wink:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 08, 2005, 09:45:50 AM
Hi Javier,

Quote
Also have no idea what the "K" is, the gallery logo?


A good point: it could be a Gallery/Dealer label rather than a maker. Doesn't entirely rule it out as being Murano then.

The 'z' character in German normally applies to lower-case only and then has a flat-top. Purely a German character though to the best of my knowledge.

Grayhorse: nice idea - must admit I did think Russian... except for the mention of Firenze, of course  :wink:  but it is possibly a stylistic character.

For some reason I'm not being informed of all the updates to this board (not just this thread) so I might be a bit late replying.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Connie on July 08, 2005, 09:59:50 AM
Bvlgari (Bulgari) is an Italian company  8)

Edited to add:  I was wrong Bvlgari Perfumes was found in Switzerland in 1993  :roll:

The point I was trying to make is that a "u" is sometimes written like a "v" for flaire or marketing - gives the illusion of exotic.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 08, 2005, 10:03:04 AM
Yes, I realise that - I was referring to the '3' character from Javier's label looking rather Russian  :)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 08, 2005, 08:34:31 PM
David
re SDV
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels03.jpg)
It could stand for Seguso Dalla Venezia & C. Srl. (1951-65)

re L Nason
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-clam-labels02.jpg)
What a beautiful and fascinating label !!!!
And something of a mystery !!!
From Murano Magic it would seem that the only person this could refer to is Lino Nason "who operated a glass workshop on Muranop in the 1930's".
The only other L.Nason is Leonardo (1830-1900) !!!
An extensive Nason family tree is shown in Murano Magic but Lino does not appear as his relationship to other members of the Nason family is unknown !!!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 08, 2005, 08:54:41 PM
Terry
Quote
Peter, I have several pieces of Maestri Vetrai. With one I got a little card. Here is their website http://www.azzurrasrl.it/ Hope you speak Italian. Terry

I thought you only had one ! What have you been hiding from me ???
Thank you so much for this link. I have had such great difficulty finding out about Maestri Vetrai. I had assumed they were a relatively modern firm going by the style of the label or indeedsome kind of commisioning/importing/branding company...but on the contrary it seems they have an illustrious past !!!
I don't really speak Italian buut I can guess some of it from enforced schoolboy Latin .... I admit I never thought that reading about Ceasar's cohorts would ever come in handy.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 08, 2005, 09:31:08 PM
3vigndnuova

(via della) Vigna Nuova is a street in central Florence
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on July 08, 2005, 10:03:11 PM
I'd suggest looking to see what company with a name starting with K was located at no 3 Vigna Nuova in Florence then.  :wink:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 08, 2005, 11:38:42 PM
Peter: SDV label

Quote
It could stand for Seguso Dalla Venezia & C. Srl. (1951-65)


Thanks, that seems very appropriate!

Quote
re L Nason
 
What a beautiful and fascinating label !!!!
And something of a mystery !!!
From Murano Magic it would seem that the only person this could refer to is Lino Nason "who operated a glass workshop on Muranop in the 1930's".


Very much a mystery it would appear! I would definitely think the style was c.1960, which is qualified by the Seguso variant, but do you have any idea how long Lino Nason was operating? This piece looks much later than the 1930s to me, although the label is quite worn. Just to confirm it does state 'Murano' above and 'Venezia' below so it is Muranese, not just Venetian.

From what I can work out on Italian [speaking] sites, he worked from the Barovier & Toso furnaces for 32 years (till 1962)?

I was also aware of the large Nason clan but apart from V.Nason their other pieces seem quite hold to find, Nason & Moretti (http://www.nasonmoretti.it/home.htm) aside.

But if it's Leonardo who made it, I'll eat the clam! :lol:

Well done Anne and Peter on Javier's label – could still be a dealer label though.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 10, 2005, 02:25:19 PM
Until recently I had taken "Made in Italy" stickers to mean "NOT Murano" but going by recent submissions here that would not necessarily appear to be the case. Indeed we have examples here of labels which don't mention Murano (only Italy) alongside Murano labels on the same item.
Life gets more complicated................. :shock:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 10, 2005, 02:42:11 PM
Javier
Thank you for examples of the number labels. The Seguso one is very nice. I assume these numbers are production numbers.
I have heard these referred to as "etickets"(spell ?). I don't know if this applies to just the plain ones or not..
In Neuwirth's Glas 1950-60 there is a b&w photo of some of these types of labels titled "Ettiketten und Stempel". I'm guessing that "stempel" means the glossy printed type.
One of these has 2 numbers, one preceded with an L, I would guess for Italian Lire (thousands of). Many items shown in the book have the original prices quoted in the notation to the pictures.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 10, 2005, 02:46:16 PM
Quote
do you have any idea how long Lino Nason was operating?
No David, that quote + the lack of relationship was pretty much everything in the book about him !!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Frank on July 10, 2005, 03:59:18 PM
ETIKETT (One t) = label
STEMPEL = Stamp (presumably etched)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 10, 2005, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: "paradisetrader"
Until recently I had taken "Made in Italy" stickers to mean "NOT Murano" but going by recent submissions here that would not necessarily appear to be the case. Indeed we have examples here of labels which don't mention Murano (only Italy) alongside Murano labels on the same item.
Life gets more complicated................. :shock:


Hi Peter,
The particular labels I just posted were taken from known "Murano" pieces.
The 1st one, which is square in shape, was from a Barbini Fazzoletto vase. The 2nd one is from a Barovier Graffitto bird, and the 3rd is from another Seguso Fazzoletto vase. I would not say that "any" label with "Made In Italy" is in fact considered "Murano", spacially if they are newer. So saying that, I would still refer back to the techniques, shapes, and over all style of the piece with such labels before making a decision.
I know, more confusion, lol.

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 10, 2005, 09:31:01 PM
Frank, thanks for the translation!

Quote from: "Frank"
ETIKETT (One t) = label
STEMPEL = Stamp (presumably etched)


Hi Peter,
The numbers refer to the style of the item, and sometimes to the item # in production, that is why sometimes they also have letters, and multiple numbers in 1 label. Without a catalogue to refer back to it is hard to say.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 16, 2005, 12:26:43 PM
More labels:

Click on thumbnails to enlarge

The first is a uranium green vase 8½" (21.5cm) tall. Strictly speaking I don't think this is Murano, but 'Venetian'. The label (badly ripped) merely states 'Venetian Art [Glass?]' and is situated on the neck. It also has one of the small circular 'Made in Italy' labels on the base. The central portion of this label has a tiny logo that looks like a 'G' with an 'H' in the centre, so either 'G.H' or 'H.G' is the maker?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-greenvase04.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/greenvase04.jpg) : (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-greenvase05.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/greenvase05.jpg)

The second is a clear plastic label, with gold lettering. On the left side is written vertically 'Murano', with 'Vetreria Artistica' and 'OBALL' to the right. Any clues to the maker?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-owl01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/owl01.jpg) : (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-owl02.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/owl02.jpg)

The label is shown twice, as the backlit version shows the lettering clearer.

[edited to correct spelling on label: "Vetreria" with the last 'a' - label not terribly good!]
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 16, 2005, 07:09:16 PM
Hi David,
Thanks for the posting. I think the label on the Green Vase is the same as the one CathyG posted (from the Orange and Yellow Sommerso Decanter) on the 1st page, at least looks very similar, so your piece might be Cenedese too... and I have to say that is the cutest OWL I have ever seen, :D

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 16, 2005, 07:33:19 PM
Javier,

Thanks for the info - I didn't have time to scrutinise the earlier postings so am pleased to learn it's a "known" maker. I actually only paid about £5 for it (~ $10) although it does have a small chip on the rim. Good news is I managed to find another on eBay.

As for the owl, I also have his big brother, who was made by V.Nason:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-owl202.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/owl202.jpg) : (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/t-owl203.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/owl203.jpg)

Click to enlarge

A massive, heavy beastie at 7½" (19cm) with pulegoso effect to create the excellent feathered effect. I have several other examples of V.Nason that I can post.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 23, 2005, 10:31:06 AM
Hi,

As mentioned in the 'Fazzoletto' thread, here is the label. Please click thumbnail to enlarge.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/fazzoletto/t-fazzoletto-label.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/fazzoletto/fazzoletto-label.jpg)

Around the edge it mentions; 'SAN MARCO : MURANO : Made in Italy. Does anyone know the maker?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on July 27, 2005, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"
... Around the edge it mentions; 'SAN MARCO : MURANO : Made in Italy. Does anyone know the maker?


Hi DenCill,
I dont know, havent seen the label before either. Looks like a current manufacturers label.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on July 30, 2005, 05:05:31 PM
I do have another piece with a label but the label is so badly worn that it would not photograph well.

Silver Triangle (pointing up)
with a drawing of a stylized gondola bow covering most of it
and in between the words:
"Italy" centre
"Glass" up left hand side
"Murano" - across the bottom

Its on a sculptural modernist sommerso basket very similar in color and style to a piece shown on the left of page 223 of Pina's Italian Glass, marked as Frattelli Toso.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on July 31, 2005, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"
More labels:

Click on thumbnails to enlarge

The first is a uranium green vase 8½" (21.5cm) tall. Strictly speaking I don't think this is Murano, but 'Venetian'. The label (badly ripped) merely states 'Venetian Art [Glass?]' and is situated on the neck. It also has one of the small circular 'Made in Italy' labels on the base. The central portion of this label has a tiny logo that looks like a 'G' with an 'H' in the centre, so either 'G.H' or 'H.G' is the maker?



David, I have a peacock vase made by the Swedish glass company Elme, which has a label with G.H as described by you.  I have always believed this to be the U.K. Importer's label, i.e. George Hardy. (check out my label to see if its the same as yours).  I have had other pieces in the past with the same GH logo on, and these have included pieces by Aseda Glasbruk.  I have also seen the same label on Raymor glass too.  

I've just got back from Falmouth, and really missed the GMB, so if I'm proved wrong about George Hardy, then blame it on too much sand, sea and ... :lol:
Regards Anne E.B.
http://tinypic.com/9qzius.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on July 31, 2005, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: "Anne E.B."
David, I have a peacock vase made by the Swedish glass company Elme, which has a label with G.H as described by you.


Hi Anne,

Thanks, this is starting to get clearer. The label is identical apart from the wording. Javier reckoned it was a Cenedese vase, so I assume Hardy imported a variety of glass and just used appropriate labels!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on July 31, 2005, 07:30:24 PM
Hi David.  Just checked "Glass Notes" on Great Glass website which states that G.H. were active in 1950s, importing Scandinavian and Murano glassware.  
Regards - Anne E.B. :lol:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on August 01, 2005, 12:14:19 PM
Thanks again, Anne - I took a peek myself and it does state 'blue/silver' labels, whereas mine is red/gold. Could be that different colours were used for different countries?

Also nice to date it to around the 1950s.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 01, 2005, 03:56:35 PM
I only have two pieces with their labels still attached:-

The first is a geometric vase - "Christallo - Vetreria - G . Campanella & C."
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/falmouthglass012.jpg  
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/muranolabels009.jpg

The second, a bowl I am led to believe by Flavio Poli.  The gold label is very worn, but the shape is quite distinctive.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/bestpiece002.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/bag001.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2005, 11:54:32 PM
Anne, your green bowl is definitely not Flavio Poli nor Seguso.  I am not even sure if it is Italian, as I've seen both Bohemian and Canadian (Chalet) pieces with this kind of free form shape.

Poli's sommerso work always features very clean lines and simple shapes. I've never seen anything like this from him.

Laura
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 02, 2005, 01:29:53 PM
Thanks Laura :) .  Its back to the drawing board on that one :roll:   Fortunately it wasn't described as such when I bought it, otherwise I would have been well and truly had!  However, it is still a fantastic piece of glass and I luuurrrve it.   I have seen the exact one described as being by Poli on the net in the past and grasped at the connection.  Mustn't believe everything I read :oops:
Regards - Anne E.B.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2005, 05:10:04 PM
Hi Anne,

It is still a lovely piece of glass, so don't feel bad. It is quite possible that it is from the same period, although I suspect it to be a tad later than the 1950s.  Have you seen the website dedicated to Chalet glass?  It is worth a look. Also, try searching for bohemian glass on ebay, as you will see similar types of items.

Best,

Laura
Title: labels
Post by: chuggy on August 02, 2005, 06:50:10 PM
Sorry to go back on this trend, but on the L Nason label shown earlier and subsequent comments, I've always understood that Lino Nason was not a person, but was used for pieces made in a collaboration between Ermanno Nason and the graphic artist Lino Perone from La Spezia in the late 1970's early 1980's.
Paul
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on August 02, 2005, 07:49:42 PM
Hi Paul,

Thanks for this new information and there's not a problem going back; I'm just interested in a correct attribution!

The style of these dishes could be anytime from 1960 to 2000s and what you've provided is most useful. It would also explain why we couldn't find an L. Nason that fitted the profile!  :)

I know Ermanno Nason was most famous for his animal sculptures in the 1960s, so it's interesting to learn of this collaboration.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: lenore on August 18, 2005, 01:36:57 AM
Hi,
We found this label on the web and it was given an attribution of Fratelli Toso??? Can anyone confirm that and if it is the period of time it was used?
Javier, you might find this interesting as I saw an angel candleholder with the solid flat base similar to that on your site except this one had the most darling bright red lips! Anyway, just a tiny piece of the label was left. And, it had this blue line and dot border edge. I wasn't aware that Fratelli Toso did any figurines. Wish I had a pic of the one we saw but it isn't ours... at least not yet!
Lenore

Picture gone!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 20, 2005, 06:46:19 PM
Hello Lenore,
I am not sure how I feel about taking photos from other members, maybe on Ebay or somewhere else, and posting them here on the boards to find out info about them.... not to be mean or anything, but just something to think about.
On Fratelli Toso, yes he did figures like every other Italian designer, in one form or another. I really do not think Toso ever used that label.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on August 26, 2005, 11:17:36 PM
Ref - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/glass47/sticker.jpg - if it helps this label is an import label - the importer is 'G Hardy & Co' who imported Aseda (Sweden), Kosta, etc as well as Murano glass - here is a bit of Aseda on eBay with same label only 'Swedish Art Glass' http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7345553969&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT if you do a bit of homework you can find who Hardy imported for and narrow it down
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: margaretinoz on August 27, 2005, 09:20:27 AM
Three labels below.

The first one says VB Opaline Florence Made in Italy

http://tinypic.com/b7lv0g.jpg

I haven't a clue what the next two labels say  :oops:   as they are worn....but I thought I would post them in case they can be identified or maybe help in any way  :?:

The label below is on a large colored vase. The only letters I can make out are REIO

http://tinypic.com/b7lyxf.jpg

This label is on a blue and green ashtray.  All I can make out is MADE IN ITALY.

http://tinypic.com/b7m0r8.jpg

Margaret
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on August 27, 2005, 09:23:49 AM
Quote from: "David555"
Ref - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/glass47/sticker.jpg - if it helps this label is an import label - the importer is 'G Hardy & Co' who imported Aseda (Sweden), Kosta, etc as well as Murano glass...


David, these labels were discussed earlier, but thanks for expanding on the theme.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on August 27, 2005, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: "margaretinoz"


The label below is on a large colored vase. The only letters I can make out are REIO

http://tinypic.com/b7lyxf.jpg

Margaret


Margaret, this looks like the middle of the word FOREIGN to me... there appears to be an N after the bit you are reading as REIO and what looks like an O before it. The O in REIO looks like a G to me zooming in on the image - it has a faint but visible cross bar of a G. Hope this helps. :)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: margaretinoz on August 27, 2005, 09:04:14 PM
Ohhh   Anne

I think you are right, it looks like the word foreign and here I was thinking this piece was Murano :oops:  :(     I have posted a pic of the vase below.  It has a totally flat base and stands 10ins high and weighs approx 4lbs.

VASE
http://tinypic.com/b88py8.jpg

BASE

http://tinypic.com/b88rwl.jpg

Oh well....I like the colours in this and it sits in nice with my other vases and ashtrays.

Thanks

Margaret
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on September 24, 2005, 12:26:50 PM
Javier, It would be an idea to make this topic a sticky so it stays at the top of the forum instead of dropping down out of sight. :)

Also, I've created a Labels album on GlassGallery so that labels we identify can be saved for permanent reference, so if anyone wants to add their labels or marks to it please register in GlassGallery and add them to the album.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Jim Sapp on September 24, 2005, 02:39:19 PM
Here are three labels found on Italian fairy lamps:

http://tinypic.com/dy88av.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Sklounion on September 26, 2005, 06:50:51 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/Glassmessages/MuranoLabelonMarcusblueandamberbowl.jpg

Marcus

NB: Image copyright waived
Title: Sticker
Post by: shanbeat on October 06, 2005, 04:06:13 PM
This is the only sticker I have. Is the photo good enough? If not I can take another.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/shanbeat/Murano/Murano-Lavander-mark.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: paradisetrader on October 06, 2005, 05:42:07 PM
Hi Shanbeat & Welcome
The photo is fine but rather big.
Perhaps you could crop it down to just the label for this purpose.
For a free image editor try Picasa2 ...its very easy.

Additionally this label is the subject of debate in another topic.
It's not yet clear if items carrying this label were actually made in Murano.
It's possible that they were made elsewhere in Italy or indeed in Venezuela !

See this topic
ICET Venezuela, Lavorazione Arte Murano & Cristalvi
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1824.0.html
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on October 08, 2005, 01:51:35 AM
To preserve these images for reference I've saved them and will upload them onto the GlassGallery Labels album over the weekend. Otherwise we will lose the valuable info we have gathered here as the images fall off their respective image hosts, e.g. Tinypic and Photobucket.  If anyone objects to having their label image/s held on GlassGallery please let me know as soon as possible and I'll not include them.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on October 08, 2005, 03:46:28 AM
Hello Anne,
Personaly I do not know how I feel about it.
Where will the labels be put up? I thought if they were going to be saved they were going to be saved on this website, not another website.
I would need a bit more info on this, can you please explain where they are going?
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: shanbeat on October 20, 2005, 03:50:21 PM
Here's a label that came on a little bird I purchased recently at the Blue Mountain Antique show in Calgary (Oct 14-16 2005) I believe it's contemporary ( take it with a grain of salt, when I was a kid I believed the moon was made of cheese :)  )

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/shanbeat/Murano/Bird-sticker.jpg

Shannon
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on November 09, 2005, 03:27:35 AM
Hi

I was going to post these in a separate 'my new buys' but think this thread is good and I can add as well as get help on Murano/Italian glass and attached labels

1) Clam form of good quality with controlled bubbles and fantastic gold foil under the surface - label is for 'G Hardy & Co' Venetian glass, but what is this 'Lido'

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/lido1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/lido2.jpg label

2) Another item that came with it, starfish in same colour with same bubbles and foil no label

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ven3.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ven4.jpg

3) Small subtle sommerso dish with green label that is worn, I read it as 'Genuine Venetian Glass - Hand Made - Made In Murano - Italy' is this a Seguso label

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ven1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ven2.jpg label

4) Tall yellow/green vase with opalescent stem - simple square gold label 'Made in Italy'

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/it1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/ven5.jpg label

Hope this helps people and I can get some confirmation

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on November 09, 2005, 05:00:30 AM
Hello David,
On piece #1, CathyG posted a similar label on page 1 of this topic, but it doesnt have the "Lido" on top. DenCill also posted a similar label on page 4, and Anne E.B. posted a good description of where it came from at the bottom of that page.
I think maybe "Lido" was for a particular maker that sold for George Hardy (importers?)?

The #3 piece has a common Venetian Glass label, not a Seguso label.

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on November 09, 2005, 03:04:06 PM
Thanks Javier

I thought the shape and colour were wrong for a Seguso label, will have a look at the pages you mention ref the G Hardy/Lido label

I think no 4 is a modern piece, but any idea if Murano? I have noticed a tendency as with my Moretti and some Nason not to put Murano on the 'label', the stemmed vase is of course not of that calibre.

I wonder if that square gold label is an importer label or a company one, if it was anything good I am sure the label would have the maker name on with logo etc.

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on November 10, 2005, 02:00:15 AM
On a separate note - I see KevH posted about a label, 'Vetro Artistico Veneziano - Made in Murano Italy' on page 1

Here is a whole thread with labels and lots of pictures of that glass maker (we actually are at an impasse as to whether it is a maker or importer)

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2405.0.html

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on November 10, 2005, 02:27:55 AM
oops - wrong post
Title: murano sticker on gorgeous paperweight
Post by: EstlinClichy on November 12, 2005, 06:21:31 PM
I have this Murano paperweight with a label that has black on silver lettering and the prow design of a gondola. Reads: Made In Italy Murano Glass. It's a beautiful paperweight. The pink canes are especially vivid against the vibrant green glass. I have other Murano weights packed away in a box in a basement room that's going to be professionally decluttered in a week or so. Lots of boxes of books, posters, tools, etc. Can't wait to go through the two boxes that have paperweights. Anyway, here are images of the weight and its label.

(http:// http://tinypic.com/fm45lt.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fm4602.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fm47cl.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fm47lg.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fm47qr.jpg
http://tinypic.com/fm47ti.jpg)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on November 12, 2005, 09:12:37 PM
Hi EstlinClichy
You have a Fratelli Toso paperweight!
The F and T are fused to make that logo.
Javier
Title: prow of a gondola
Post by: EstlinClichy on November 12, 2005, 10:24:23 PM
Thanks so much for your reply Javier. It's a gorgeous paperweight. I'm pleased to know its a Fratelli & Toso. The logo (the fused F & T) IS supposed to look like the prow design on every gondola I saw in Venice, right?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on January 17, 2006, 04:47:11 PM
Della gave permission to post this beautiful Nason vase with a label not often seen (see thread http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3882.0.html)

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/VNason.jpg)

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/Nasonlabel.jpg)

I think this is a good place for any comments on the label - good source for name of the range 'Avventurina' - style of label, date, etc.

Thanks Della for letting me post this here

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on January 17, 2006, 07:04:33 PM
V.Nason would appear to have evolved from VNC and Veritable Opaline de Murano, who were in business from 1967. The following label is taken from a vase; note the gold 'N' in the red circle on the left that probably signifies 'Nason'?

 :shock: click to zoom  :shock:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/nason-vnc-t.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/labels/nason-vnc.jpg)

Here is the vase, along with another:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/Nason/opaline1-t.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/Nason/opaline1.jpg)

The vases are 24cm and 28cm tall.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on January 19, 2006, 09:57:45 PM
Really enjoying the research and debate into Nason and hope that will keep running

Meanwhile I thought I’d post a couple of labels onto this thread – I keep on forgetting what a valuable database it will become. These are both my pieces

Large ‘Formia’ cat c 1992 - http://www.formiaglass.it/inizio_eng_formia.html I love some of their more recent animals, they are so quirky yet beautifully designed, factory been running since mid 1960s
(http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/5396/formiacat8wu.th.jpg) (http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=formiacat8wu.jpg)

Label – clear plastic with white lettering
(http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6311/formialabel9dz.th.jpg) (http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=formialabel9dz.jpg)



Vetreria La Fenice atomizer with mezza filigrana decoration, factory been running since 1977 http://www.vetrerialafenice.com/link/cat.html c mid 1980s - 90s they still specialise in perfumes and have a fantastic range of glass
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8195/lafenice8ef.th.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lafenice8ef.jpg)

Any other ‘Formia’ and ‘La Fenice’ labels down the ages


Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on January 19, 2006, 10:24:47 PM
Two pieces I sold but kept the images

A Murano Elephant (medium size) clear glass with aventurine – label ‘Made in Italy Murano Venezia’ don’t know the company or importer but it’s a modern piece
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1665/muranoelep6jn.th.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=muranoelep6jn.jpg) I thought the shape looked a bit like these Formia elephants Formia Glass (http://www.formiaglass.it/catalogo/000qx-19.jpg?)


A large 14” Murano Sommerso Vase with canes and aventurine to base, a beautiful item that sold well – label ‘Made in Italy’ – with ‘Murano’ in scripts cutting through label at an angle – label colours gold and green c 1960s
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4736/vase1nu.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vase1nu.jpg)

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on January 28, 2006, 06:22:30 PM
A freeform sommerso bowl with stretched appendage + label.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/freeformbowl.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc033.jpg

Anne E.B.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on January 28, 2006, 06:39:00 PM
Hi Anne,

Does the label have any text?

Thanks.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne E.B. on January 28, 2006, 08:06:21 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"
Hi Anne,

Does the label have any text?
Thanks.

No - just an illustration of rose type flowers in a vase/jug.
I've had two or three of these in the past, but this is the first with a label.

Anne E.B. :wink:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: bubbles on February 01, 2006, 12:46:19 PM
Hi,
Not sure if this counts under the murano labels heading, but this label is deteriorating fast and I thought I would take a picture of it before it goes completely.  This vase was bought in 1965 (probably from Bath) as a 21st birthday present for a friend of mine.  She no longer wanted it and passed it on to me knowing I liked glass.  The label reads Montrose Made in Italy. with a picture of a rose.  The writing is silver on a red background.   It is 33cms (13") tall and has quite deep vertical ribbing  inside, although it can be felt very slightly on the outside.
I've hunted unsuccessfully for any information on Montrose, but am asuming it was the name of the distributor or importer.

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=n171ux

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=n171xi
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 02, 2006, 10:26:56 AM
:D:D:D

Hello, I'm a bit late getting to this thread! I recently found a large long-necked duck, in green and gold, with a sticker on it. The sticker is the same as the third one illustrated in the posting by Jim Sapp, a shield shape in blue, with Murano along the top in silver, then a rectangle of yellow/cream colour, surrounded by silver under it, and a silver bird on the blue under that. I can't tell if there was writing in the rectangle or not. The bottom right hand corner of the label is missing - if it hadn't been for Jim's illustration, I wouldn't have known about the silver bird.

Does anybody know the maker that used this label? Perhaps the fact that it's attached to both fairy lamps and sommerso gold and green ducks might help?

When we get a new camera (I dropped the one we had, bent the zoom lens and it won't work) I will post a picture. Promise. :oops:
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David555 on February 17, 2006, 09:27:24 PM
Taken from Murano forum - ref G Hardy Italian label

So these are Italian after all!!

I know, you all knew that anyway, but here is irrefutable proof ref a label.

The vase is 20” in height and has a subtle spiral moulding to it, white twisting stripe.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tallitalianstripe2si.jpg

I have seen loads of these and thought mmmm – but this has a G Hardy label on it, one I have not seen before saying ‘Italian Art Glass’ – not Venetian …

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2253/label86lu.jpg

My dealer has loads of these in different colours and shapes - he has a decanter (cracked) with a different importers label on – looks like Seguso but without the apostrophes to Italy.

So knowing bit of the G Hardy history I would say this is 1960s / 70s but who by and is it Murano?

Thanks

Adam P
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Della on March 19, 2006, 02:21:59 PM
I thought I would post this dish with label, which I found today.

(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_leaft.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1294)(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_leafs.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1293)(http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/thumb_leafl.jpg) (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1292)

Hopefully of use to someone one day. I would never have tabbed this one as being Murano, had it not had a label.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Pip on May 02, 2006, 03:13:06 PM
Hi I've just posted a picture of this in relation to another thread on the 1950's Brussels Fair vase - it's on my green Flavio Poli ... I'll post it here also if it helps

http://tinypic.com/x1mxl3.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on May 16, 2006, 01:13:41 AM
Murano 101 Labels now in place in GlassGallery
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=102
Please add new labels in this thread into this album with relevant comments. Thanks!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 17, 2006, 10:40:14 AM
Peter/Anne can one of you repost the gold scroll label on the first page of this thread. It's gone walkies. Chris - a new member - has a silver scroll. I'll ask him to post it here.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on May 18, 2006, 12:50:04 AM
I don't have a copy of that one so couldn't add it to the album... Peter...???
Title: venini paper label
Post by: buydesigns on June 24, 2006, 01:52:51 AM
here is a photo of a paper label and the vase it is on:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2387

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2369
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Paul ADK on July 16, 2006, 01:12:14 AM
Perhaps this label was posted previously on one of the links that disappeared.  I found it on a 12" bowl with a silver and gold interior design that is about as sad an example of the glass makers art as I have seen in many a moon.  The glass if fine, if pedestrian.  The painting, shows a decided lack of talent and taste.

Paul ADK
(http://thumb0.webshots.com/t/38/38/5/31/55/2413531550066436060eUpTjE_th.jpg) (http://community.webshots.com/photo/2413531550066436060eUpTjE)
Title: Another Murano Sticker
Post by: CathyG on July 22, 2006, 09:21:08 PM
Picked up this vase today with a nice sticker. Thought I'd add it to the thread. What I really found interesting about this vase is that is also has a S.S. Kresge sticker on the bottom. S.S. Kresge was a discount store here in the U.S. that later turned into K-Mart stores we have today. I know this vase must be vintage since S.S. Kresge is long gone! Vase stands 7 1/2" high. Sticker reads "GENUINE VENETIAN GLASS MADE IN MURANO ITALY" Cenedese?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/sassglass/bluevase.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/sassglass/bluevasesticker.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/sassglass/Kresgesticker.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: bubbles on July 22, 2006, 09:35:25 PM
I thought you might like to see this dichroic glass bud vase with a Murano sticker.  It is approximately 11" (275mm) tall. A pink/lilac colour which turns blue under fluorescent light.  The label is a pale gold colour and sadly quite worn.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2641
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2640
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: CathyG on July 22, 2006, 10:40:37 PM
Pat...I LOVE THAT PIECE!!!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on July 23, 2006, 03:47:13 AM
Hi Cathy, Any chance you could add pics of your labels into the Murano 101 album on GlassGallery please? :)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=102
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: CathyG on July 23, 2006, 01:19:32 PM
Hi Anne, I added the label but don't see in on the 05 Murano 101 Labels pages. Did I do something wrong? I see it on the Album list.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on July 23, 2006, 07:33:54 PM
Thanks Cathy, it is there. (I wonder if you're viewing a cached version of the page? Try holding down the Shift key and pressing the refresh / reload option in your browser... you should see it then.)

Anyhow, it is here safe and sound:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2642

Again, many thanks.  :)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Tigerchips on July 23, 2006, 08:51:22 PM
Hi Cathy, I always thought that the "Genuine Venetian Glass" labels were recent.  :o

Here's another variation of it, the difference being that it has "Hand Made In Murano" in the centre.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48131.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48134.jpg

Hi Bubbles, I think I have the same label on this fish.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48119.jpg
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture_48118.jpg
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: bubbles on July 23, 2006, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: "CathyG"
Pat...I LOVE THAT PIECE!!!


Thanks Cathy, I love it too!  I just need to get a better image of it, and also one under under fluorescent light to show the blue colour. Also took a look at your site, yum, I just wish I could win the lottery!

Hi Tigerchips, yes it certainly looks the same label although yours looks more silver than gold, but it is probably the light difference.  I wonder when these labels were in use?

Anne,
Thanks for moving the picture of the whole vase from the label album, I'll get the hang of it soon I promise!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Tigerchips on July 23, 2006, 09:26:10 PM
The fish label is silver but I think the original colour was green.  :)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: CathyG on July 24, 2006, 12:58:10 PM
Tigerchips...I did look up the history of S.S. Kresge Co. and I found it changed it's name in 1977 to K-mart. So at least I know that much. I guess the vase could have been sold at anytime up to 1977.

Bubbles...Thanks for your reply on the website it's nice to hear.

Anne...I do see it! Thanks...Maybe I should change the caption under the label since the vase could have been sold in the 70's too. How do I change what's under the picture? Do I just delete it and upload it again? And if so how?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on July 24, 2006, 06:04:35 PM
You should see an edit description button under the image Cathy? If you don't see that then you could e-mail me the new text and I can edit it for you.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 01, 2006, 01:14:54 AM
Hi Cathy,
Paul came up with this info on your retailers label....

Quote from: "Paul ADK"
If you can locate a former Kresge stock clerk, I have no doubt they will be able to tell you instantly what year that Murano vase was put on sale and the price paid by Kresge.  The information is all on the sticker, but in a simple commercial code.  

J,J,Newberry, my employer c. 1960, used the words "Palmer John" in which p =1, a=2, etc., and x designated repeat. (The sum of $11.49 translating to PXMN.)  When used with the prefix 3 and the suffix 1 or 61,  as in 3PXMN61, you could tell the item went on sale in March of 1961, at a cost of $11.49 each, or per dozen for lower priced items.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: CathyG on August 07, 2006, 06:33:21 PM
Thanks for the info, but I still can't make heads or tails out of it. It doesn't seem to me, to follow that explanation. Maybe the KW for someone's initials but the rest...I'm not getting. I'm adding a close up of the sticker.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/sassglass/murano003.jpg)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Frank on August 07, 2006, 08:04:21 PM
I think this thread could do with a clean-up to remove the older chatter and make the info more accessible, but without moving it to the archive so that it continues to grow.

Any objections?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on August 07, 2006, 10:15:19 PM
YES! Please don't tinker with it Frank until I've rescued the info to go with all the labels in Murano101 album. I won't have time for at least another week!
Title: Another Murano lable for the collection
Post by: Painter1959 on August 18, 2006, 12:04:28 AM
http://home.earthlink.net/~painter1959/murano1.JPG

Has this sticker ever been linked to a maker?

Thanks!
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 27, 2006, 08:15:07 PM
I havent seen that particular label before, so cant really say one way or another. Just shows how many types of labels are really out there!
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 27, 2006, 08:29:38 PM
Rooster Shield Label

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/shield.jpg.w300h311.jpg)
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on August 28, 2006, 01:57:29 AM
Javier, your rooster shield is the same label as Jim Sapp posted as found on fairy lamps and which Sue mentioned on her sommerso gold and green duck both earlier in this thread.  No-one seems to know who it's from yet but  I did notice that Campanella also use a chicken in their more recent-looking labels. Could there be a connection? Two glass firms with chickens may be unusual or are the Muranese especially fond of chickens?
See this label for comparison:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1899
Title: Murano label added
Post by: selina on August 29, 2006, 03:04:43 AM
Hi, I just joined and dont know much about my glass. Ive uploaded a label that I have on a bowl purchased about 6 years ago. Ive put a link to a pic of the bowl here so that someone may be able to identify the age and maker and attribute the label to it.
Hope Ive done it okay, I have a couple of others to add.

My bowl

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/th_facetbowl1.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/facetbowl1.jpg)

selina
Title: 2 other labels uploaded
Post by: selina on August 29, 2006, 08:56:20 AM
Hi again,

Uploaded my 2 other labels to the 101 pics.

Here are the items they were on..I havent named the labels as I had no idea what to put... any info on any of my glass would be great as I plan to document information for my daughters.

Red Label on...
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/th_basket2.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/basket2.jpg)

blue part label on...
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/th_shell.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/shell.jpg)

selina
Title: Selina's labels
Post by: Angela B on August 29, 2006, 10:43:49 AM
Hi Selina,
I can't tell which labels on the glass gallery belong to your two bowls. Could you put the labels on here as well as the bowls?
Millions of thanks,
Angela
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: selina on August 29, 2006, 11:30:44 AM
No worries Angela, sorry, I didnt realise they move :)

Label from the white basket
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/th_basketlabel.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/basketlabel.jpg)

Label from coloured bowl
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/th_shellbluelabel.jpg) (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/_selina_/mystuff/shellbluelabel.jpg)

Feel free to label them in the gallery, as I had no idea what to post them as.

selina
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Angela B on August 29, 2006, 11:46:15 AM
Thanks, Selina,
Much appreciated.
Angela
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 30, 2006, 09:49:08 PM
I know i've posted similar labels to these before, but I have a more specific question and thought everyone would benefit from it. I will do a new topic for it, so we can discuss it at length and not crowd the labels thread too much.


(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/starSQ.jpg)

(http://www.svazzo.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/starAF.jpg)

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on August 31, 2006, 01:44:52 AM
Javier, can these be added to the Murano 101 gallery as well please?
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 31, 2006, 04:24:22 AM
Hi Anne,
There is already a sample of these on there, actually 2, on the 1st page and the 2nd page, which is mine also. There are other duplicates on there...
On the first page of the label gallery theres the same "Christallo Vetreria Campanella" label 3 times.

The Geo Hardy Venetian Art Glass label on the first page is good, but theres also the same label on page 2 "Geo Hardy Venetian Art Glass" that you cant read.

"Lavarazione Arte Murano" on the 3rd page is there 2 times.

"Seguso Dalla Venezia Murano" & "SDV Murano" are the same label.

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 31, 2006, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: "horochar"
Irice "Made in Italy," on perfume bottle, maybe L. Gaspari for Salviati.
(http://i2.tinypic.com/263bmeg.jpg)


We cant really attach a new topic onto an ongoing thread, so copy and paste is the best I could do.
I think the problem is that you are putting in a "Tittle" for your post, when you just need to reply and leave that section empty. I think that is why its making your replies into new topics.
Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: svazzo on August 31, 2006, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: "horochar"
I posted the Irice on the "yobunny" labels compendium, but somehow didn't get the title "Irice" under the label to help viewers know what they're looking at.  Could someone go into it and add the name?  If only I have authority to do so, could someone give me detailed step by step instructions?
Thanks,
Charles.


Hi Charles,
I cant change that, but maybe Anne can.
I think since you posted the label, you should be able to go back in and change/add the name to it? Im not so sure. Anne is in charge of the gallery.... Actually I just checked, and on the top of the Glass Gellery pages, on the right, there's a link in Bold Blue, that should help you. It says -
HELP & HOWTO PAGE
If you need help using
GlassGallery click here

Javier
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: horochar on September 01, 2006, 06:48:46 AM
I've tried everything, and cannot edit the Irice label Gallery Picture.  I suspect the problem lies in the fact that I originally uploaded it without first logging in (in fact, without first registering with GlassGallery -- as opposed to GMB -- if that's possible [???]).

If the moderator could remove it, I will re-post and try to make sure the title gets in.  I think titles are helpful for the picture gallery.

Charles.
Title: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Max on September 11, 2006, 11:36:17 AM
Label uploaded:  Cesare Toso, Venezia Murano, Italy

Found on small, frosted, alexandrite squirrel.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3290

(http://i1.tinypic.com/2d76138.jpg)
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 13, 2007, 10:06:29 AM
Here's one on a small spatter glass vase I picked up last week. Probably modern?.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7016

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on May 16, 2007, 05:52:31 PM
Thanks Bryn, I've linked it via album keyword to the Murano101 album. :)
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Joschua on May 23, 2007, 11:32:40 AM
Here are some more Venini labels which you can upload to the Gallery if you want.

If you want to try a chronological order I would suggest to do it that way:

Early fifties on a piece of ca. 1952:

(http://www.billardcafe.com/label.jpg)

Mid fifties to early sixties:

The Venini paper label that is already in your database.

Late sixties to seventies:

The Venini plastic label that is already in your database.

On a piece from 1998:

http://www.billardcafe.com/label2.JPG

On a Versace piece from 2002:

http://www.billardcafe.com/label3.JPG

On a piece from 2006:

http://www.billardcafe.com/label1.JPG


Joschua

PS: Acid stamps are a different thing, they can even show up in the company of lables, the three line is ca. 1950-65 if authentic
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: David E on May 23, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
Very interesting and thanks for bringing these up. Please do upload to GlassGallery as this is the support picture archive for everyone to browse.

I've converted the latter images to links in the meantime.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: josordoni on June 17, 2007, 01:03:41 PM
Two more labels added to the gallery:

First just another red Murano label, but a very crisp and clean one, so I added it anyway.

I'm sure I've seen these daisy weights somewhere - I thought Nason at first, I had some signed daisy weights earlier this year, but they are not quite the same.  Could be good if we can tie the paperweight down, then we could maybe get a factory for these red labels.  But it may just be generic anyway.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7504

Second a Tagliapietra label on a nice transfer paperweight

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7503
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on June 19, 2007, 02:37:10 AM
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing those Lynne. :)
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: OHARA5150 on October 02, 2007, 09:49:23 PM
Here's a link to a website I just found that is very helpful for Murano as well as other types of glass.  It's probably been posted before, but just in case. . .

http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/markt-z.htm#TOP
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on October 02, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
Thank you, yes it has been, but it never hurts to add it again. :)  Have you visited our Murano101 label collection here yet? http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=102
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Beth on October 23, 2007, 09:46:19 PM
Hello, here is a Murano Rooster Label that you can use if you want to. It disapears in 48 hours I think???  :huh:

http://auctionhealth.com/pub/13D2.jpg

Beth  ;D
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Beth on October 23, 2007, 10:10:23 PM
Here is a Murano Rooster Label.....Beth

Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: KevinH on October 23, 2007, 11:03:06 PM
I have added Beth's label to the Lables 101 section of Glass Gallery. Slight variation to the one Svazzo posted a while ago.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: josordoni on November 10, 2007, 01:43:52 PM
Here is a residue of a label on a bowl recently acquired - I have gone all through the labels on the Murano 101 gallery, but all the generic seem to have Murano in the middle, not across the bottom like this one.  Seems to say "made in" around the top (I have got DE left) but nothing else remaining.

does it ring any bells with anyone?

Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: bidda on November 29, 2007, 07:37:43 PM
there's an opaline dresser/bathroom set on ebay presently with a label i don't think i've seen before. does anyone recognize this label or have ideas about possible maker/age? item# 220175174757
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Sue C on February 27, 2008, 10:26:01 AM
Here is a Ferro & Lazzarini label
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on February 27, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
Thanks Sue, great label pic! Did you add it to Murano101 album in GlassGallery as well?  If not, may I do so please?
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Sue C on February 28, 2008, 01:12:57 AM
 :huh: :huh: sorry Anne i thought thats where i was, doh!!  please add to Murano 101  :-*
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on February 28, 2008, 02:41:46 AM
You are in Murano101 topic Sue, but we uploaded all the label images to the GlassGallery for reference as well (from before we could add pics as attachments to posts.) Sorry if I confused you - I didn't mean to.  :-*
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: bicard on October 27, 2008, 12:45:05 AM
Hi all, Im new here and was lurking threw this thread the other day (not all of it) Anyways I have been hired to sell an estate of lamps, art, and chandeliers(lots of muranos) and here is one label I came across that I didn't see while lurking the other day.  I don't want to promote my sales here but I hope to be able to learn from you good people all about this glass.  As I don't have a clue about it.  But I did learn just by lurking that labels are a good thing... so I hope you won't be offended by dumb questions.   

ps  there are about 100 lamps, 3-500 pc of art glass, and at least 12 chandeliers all murano glass. mid century, this guy bought it all as an investment from buisnesses that were going under in the late 70s
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: smokerstill on December 10, 2008, 03:34:56 AM
Heres the bare remnants of what seems to have been a round label the silver on red letters Murano can just be read and if anyone knows the maker I would appreciate them letting me know:-)
I uploaded iit to Murano 101 but there doesnt seem to be anything like it as in capitol italics.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: langhaugh on October 15, 2009, 03:52:08 PM
Hi:

I didn't see an SVA label on here so thought I'd add one. It's from a heavily ribbed colourless corroso bowl, which also has a clear plastic Saks Fifth Avenue label on it.

David
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: langhaugh on October 15, 2009, 03:54:41 PM
While I'm at it, here's what might be a version of a Galliano Ferro label from the bottom of an opalescent bird. I suppose it's "Galliano Ferro?"

David
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Anne on October 20, 2009, 01:09:53 AM
I've just found our Murano101 labels album on GlassGallery is being quoted as an online reference source for Murano Glass on ehow.com :)  http://www.ehow.com/how_5146007_buy-vintage-murano-glass-resale.html
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: flying free on November 16, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=102&pos=105

I think the bowl I posted the other day and identified as Fratelli Toso by Anita has a label which may be the same as the one above.
I have attached a pic of the label on my bowl which you are welcome to upload to the labels gallery as I didn't see it there.  My apologies if it is and I missed it  :)  And as Anita pointed out, under a magnifying glass and spotlight I can make out IN ITALY in the middle of the label.  The word MADE is not identifiable.  The IN ITALY is in caps but  smaller font than the MURANO GLASS around the outside.
regards
M
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: kane_u_pain on December 12, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Import Label - Genuine Venetian Glass, Bramor, Made in Murano Italy on red scalloped label. Bramor was/is possibly a import company for glass into Australia back mid 1900's. Saw another label like this on ebay the other day by a sellor in Australia for red/blue geode style bowl. I believe Bramor supplied Murano glass to the better jewellers here in Australia. Bramor pops onto Australian ebay every now and then.  ;D

Pic of the label and bowl it is on.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: kane_u_pain on December 12, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
Label - Genuine Hand Made In Italy Arno Arte Toscana in scroll form with a picture of glassworks. Not Murano I know but hopefully it will be ok to post here.

Pic of label and the companion piece as the orange has a chipped rim (my fault).
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: glasshunter on February 04, 2010, 03:45:12 AM
 http://www.muranoclowns.co.uk/murano_labels_20.html             more labels
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: kane_u_pain on July 17, 2010, 10:50:35 PM
Aureliano Toso Label for a Dino Martens piece. Paper label, 'Made In Italy'. Also a pic of the piece it came of.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Shelleys1 on July 28, 2010, 02:04:36 AM
I've just found our Murano101 labels album on GlassGallery is being quoted as an online reference source for Murano Glass on ehow.com :)  http://www.ehow.com/how_5146007_buy-vintage-murano-glass-resale.html

Hi Anne!
I'm new to this wonderful board but far from new to glass (Murano in particular!). Anita can probably attest to this. *smile* I do have one "bone to pick" with the person who wrote the article on ehow.com. While I very much commend her on referencing this site for the Murano 101 labels album, I'm afraid I disagree with her putting Leslie Pina as the top reference/source of information on Murano glass. Quite honestly, there are only two people who I believe are the most reliable references both in the past 20 years and today. They are Marc Heiremans and Rosa Barovier Mentasti. I hate to be critical but Leslie Pina has made too many mistakes in her books and especially the latest one on Archimede Seguso. (Of course, only my opinion, fwiw.)

I truly don't claim to be an expert! But I've been buying, selling and deeply involved in collecting glass going on nearly 30 years now. While my interests range from everyone from our brilliant American Studio glassmasters to the incomparable masters such as Tagliapietra (and so many more), I admit I am a stickler when it comes to authors publishing reference books and not getting their facts correct. No one is perfect, but Pina hasn't done a good enough job to be labelled as the "best refrerence on Murano glass" and other glass as well.

(Sorry for the rant! I do love what y'all are doing here and I hope I can get involved, if you want me around...without "rants" LOL)

Shell :-[
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: TxSilver on July 28, 2010, 05:11:30 PM
Hi, Shell, and welcome! Leslie Pina did have some trouble with her early Fifties Glass books. It was riddled with errors. I think her Italian Glass Century 20 is an excellent primer for people learning about vintage Murano. I've not noticed any real problems with it. Her later books on Fratelli Toso and Archimede Seguso have a couple of mistakes, but I've not seen any real problem with them. Maybe you can start a thread in the Glass Museum Cafe to talk about the problems with the books. It should be interesting. There may be things that I don't realize are wrong.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Baked_Beans on September 19, 2010, 04:04:09 PM
Just thought I would add a couple of labels on two Murano paperweights . The first you already have a pic of in blue. The second on the base of the fish-cane paperweight is probably from an exporter. Cheers, Mike.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Catisfaction on March 14, 2011, 06:33:06 PM
I suspect Alfredo Barbini labels are probably covered already but I don't have time to check the whole thread and I won't remember later so I'm just going to throw this one out there with the Swan it was found on :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/GlassMessagesPosts/th_Postwalla173.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/GlassMessagesPosts/?action=view&current=Postwalla173.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/GlassMessagesPosts/th_Postwalla171.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/GlassMessagesPosts/?action=view&current=Postwalla171.jpg)
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on August 16, 2011, 11:21:02 PM
Hi everyone  :hi:

Indeed this is a topic that is well needed in the industry with so many fake products being produced in China and being sold as genuine Murano.  What everyone must be careful of is the fact that there may still be NEW products in the market place that have actually been produced in China but have a Murano or MADE IN ITALY label attached.  This may still be the case after the Carbinieri seized over 11 million fake items worth approximately 16 Million USD from Venice in July 2010.  The only way you can be sure is know your makers, the styles and techniques used, a bit of history on Murano glass and most of all, purchase from someone who will stand behind what they sell. 

This is my 2 cents worth as a lover of Murano glass who has now built the largest website of its type anywhere in the world devoted to the most fascinating and beautiful of all art forms - Venetian Glass blowing!

Ciao

Dean
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: angel2 on September 12, 2011, 06:08:38 PM
 :angel:

Sorry to be mundane but if any use, generic label, run of the mill vase.    :pb:

 ;D angel2
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: obscurities on June 12, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
I added a new blue and gold foil label. Oval in shape and believed to me mid century, but not documented as such.
Title: Re: Murano 101: Murano Labels!!!
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
I've been looking for this one for quite a while because the owner of the number VM 018 has been unclear.
Hopefully these photos will answer this question.
(One of the) Owner(s) was Ragazzi & Co.
If anybody has found an example which links it to 'Sent' then I'd like to see the identification data so that we can eliminate(?) that or this?? name from the VM list.