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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: Tony H on August 03, 2005, 08:32:38 AM

Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 03, 2005, 08:32:38 AM
Hi
Can anyone tell me about the glass masters Oscar and Licio who is Father and who is son I have found info about them but not sure who is who..

Seen a large sculptur CURL signed Zanetti Licio, it weighs 16lb.

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Connie on August 03, 2005, 09:27:08 AM
I found this website

 Zanetti  (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.zanettimurano.com/fornace.php&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlicio%2Bzanetti%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DjQZ%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official)

But it seems to contradict itself on who is son and who is father  :?

Oops! I read your message again and realize this is the website that probably lead to your confusion  :oops:
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 03, 2005, 09:47:23 AM
Connie
Thanks yes that is why I am here does anyone know.

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2005, 10:31:01 AM
Much of the glass listed here appears to be from Oscar, and the modernist nature of some sculptures could lead one towards the 1960s, hence the father.

I just came across this on the site (click 'about')
http://www.zanettimurano.com/fornace.php

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The Zanetti Vetreria Artistica was founded in 1956 by the glassmaster Oscar Zanetti and his son Licio.


Hope this helps.  :)
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 03, 2005, 10:38:36 AM
Sorry that was me – the phantom log out caught me!

Like Connie I've just come across the next quote:

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In 1989 master Licio Zanetti stepped down in favor of his son Oscar, who had been working by his side since his youth.


So this is no help at all! However, other sites seem to confirm Licio was very prominent around the 1960s, so I would say he is the father.

BUT, http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/manw-z.htm contradicts this with:

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Zanetti, Vetreria Fratelli
Murano, Venice, Italy (1956 - )
Founded by Oscar Zanetti & his son Licio. Luciano Zanetti.


Grief, what a tangled "web" we lead...
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Leni on August 03, 2005, 02:59:05 PM
How about son Licio named after his grand-daddy Licio?   :shock:

Just a thought ...  :roll:

Leni
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Artofvenice on August 03, 2005, 03:36:26 PM
Hi guys,
Oscar is the father.
His pieces have a good reputation here, in Venice.

Ciao!

Alex

http://www.artofvenice.com
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 03, 2005, 04:25:58 PM
There you go: just needs an expert! Thanks Alex  :D
Title: zanetti
Post by: chuggy on August 03, 2005, 04:35:54 PM
Just a tad more Licio Zanetti did a number of works in the mid 1970's with Fulvio Bianconi. Might help a little on the time scales of his work.
Paul
Title: zanetti
Post by: chuggy on August 03, 2005, 05:28:17 PM
Lucio stepped down as head of the firm in 1989 and Oscar took over, so gradually the picture becomes clearer.
Paul
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 03, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
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so gradually the picture becomes clearer.


Or murkier? Alex reckons that Oscar is the father...  :?

Perhaps Leni is right; there is more than one Lucio?
Title: zanetti
Post by: chuggy on August 03, 2005, 06:48:15 PM
Only point would be David that it is far more likely that a designer of the status of Bianconi would have worked with the master rather than the son and the time scale involved also makes this more likely and the works are well documented as being with Licio.
Paul
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Frank on August 03, 2005, 06:57:18 PM
Alex is a local and in the trade, so if he says Oscar is the father you can take that as certain.
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Artofvenice on August 03, 2005, 09:58:30 PM
Now I have a "?". It may be that "Licio" isn't "Lucio" and Oscar is in between? It can be an answer.
I know a Zanetti's family friend and I'll ask him the family tree...
I'll update you tomorrow with the final answer...


Ciao

Alex[/b]
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 03, 2005, 10:41:43 PM
Hi Guys
Many thanks for all your help. Here is a photo of a piece which is signed Zanetti Licio a serious piece of glass 13 inches high by 8 inches across and weighs 16lbs. I have seen this on a web site named CURL .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/d554to/1ZanettiLicioCURL.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/d554to/2ZanettiLicio.jpg

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: svazzo on August 03, 2005, 11:20:19 PM
I thought it was Lucio Zanetti? not Licio... maybe im wrong?
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: svazzo on August 03, 2005, 11:22:21 PM
Quote from: "Artofvenice"
Now I have a "?". It may be that "Licio" isn't "Lucio" and Oscar is in between? It can be an answer....
Ciao

Alex[/b]


Jumped the gun there. Guess Alex is on the case about the Lucio vs Licio matter. Thanks Alex!
Javier
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 04, 2005, 12:57:47 AM
Hi Guys
Have a look at this link http://www.zanettimurano.com/  this is why I asked the question.

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 04, 2005, 07:30:04 AM
Hi Tony,

Yes, that link raised all the confusion in the first place... :shock:

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The Zanetti Vetreria Artistica was founded in 1956 by the glassmaster Oscar Zanetti and his son Licio. The furnace quickly distinguished it self for the artistic quality of master Licio Zanetti's glass sculptures, and soon took its place among the most prestigious companies on Murano. In 1989 master Licio Zanetti stepped down in favor of his son Oscar, who had been working by his side since his youth.


Which infers that there could have been two Oscars :!: , or there's a mistake in this text!  :?
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Leni on August 04, 2005, 07:42:47 AM
So it's possibly *son* Oscar, named after his grand-daddy Oscar!   :?

Hope Alex comes up with the facts for us!  Great to have an 'insider', isn't it?   :wink:

Leni
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 04, 2005, 07:55:22 AM
Leni, my head hurts... :cry:
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Leni on August 04, 2005, 09:05:39 AM
Quote from: "DenCill"
Leni, my head hurts... :cry:

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Leni  :wink:
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 04, 2005, 02:35:06 PM
Aw, bless!  :oops:
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Artofvenice on August 04, 2005, 04:28:39 PM
Hi everybody,
I verified today and  :oops: I was wrong yestarday  :oops: :
Oscar is the son, Licio the father.
Instead there is a Lucio, but he is a lampworker, nothing to do with the other Zanetti family.
Sorry for the mistake, but I don't work with them.

Ciao

Alex

____________
http://www.artofvenice.com
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 04, 2005, 11:36:34 PM
Hi Guys
Here is another link which may make it all a bit clearer.

http://objectsofenvy.com/zanetti-story.html

But this is all about Oscar.

Artofvenice
Thank you for your help, can you help with Licio ( Farther ! ) the photos I have posted are of a piece of his work Licio and it is signed.

Oscar made a piece like it only on a black base, this piece belongs to a friend, who knows I am very interested in glass so was given the task of researcher, forgive this question but also a value.

When Licio made this piece or any other how many where made 1 or 2 or ?

Many thanks to all of you for help with this, an interesting exercise.

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 14, 2005, 07:55:38 PM
Hi All
I just recieved an email notefiction to say this topic had been updated since my last visting, when I click on the link is opens a php page  to say this topic does not exist.

as you can see this topic has not been updated, can anyone explain?

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 14, 2005, 09:58:43 PM
Same here, Tony. Probably a glitch (must be a Micro$oft server  :twisted: )

Strange though, I didn't get an e-mail telling me YOUR mail had updated the topic  :?
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Tony H on August 15, 2005, 07:03:47 AM
David
Thank you for your reply, I was a bit concerned incase someone had got into to our site and was playing silly bu-----!!!

Tony H
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: Anne on August 15, 2005, 12:53:07 PM
The usual reason for this happening is that someone has posted a mesage which the moderator has spotted and deleted for some reason. Spam on the board has been a problem in some forums and this would trigger the message notification but by the time you visited the board our trusty moderator had done his stuff and the message was gone! :)
Title: Zanetti Licio
Post by: David E on August 15, 2005, 12:56:13 PM
Hi Anne,

That would make sense. I spotted a 'spam' earlier on another thread which, by the time I'd notified Angela and Frank, had been wiped :)