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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Poland => Topic started by: Anne on July 11, 2008, 02:42:33 PM

Title: Triangular bowl - ID = Zabkowice
Post by: Anne on July 11, 2008, 02:42:33 PM
I thought this might be Whitefriars because I have a vase the same shade which was ID'd on Is it Whitefriars? but I can't find it in the catalogues, and the base seems wrong for W/f as well. It's a well-type like the Sklo Union birdbath bases. Does anyone recognise it please?

Oops! forgot to add the size: 5" across at widest parts, 2" high (or 127mm and 51mm for metricated people.)
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Ivo on July 11, 2008, 03:02:57 PM
it is a well known dish which comes in many colours (blue, pink). It looks like Sklo Union, but Marcus has not been able to identify it yet - so it could be Weisswasser or Polish too.
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on July 11, 2008, 04:06:39 PM
OK thanks Ivo, I'll see what Marcus thinks. :)
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: flying free on July 12, 2008, 12:12:47 AM
Hi
still unable to post photos  :-[ but very pleased to be able to join in on something at last  :hiclp: although not with anything helpful  sadly,  but I have two of these in amber.  Both slightly different though, one a paler amber and with 'flat' edges and the other with a ridged edge round the top and a darker prettier amber.

M
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Max on July 19, 2008, 10:44:58 AM
Randsfjordglass displays a heavily indented bottom like this on at least one item.  Not sure if that's really any help!   :huh:  Thought I'd throw it into the mix anyway.  See Page 135 Fire & Sea emerald cased bowl.

Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on July 19, 2008, 12:34:15 PM
Hi Flying Free, can you add pics of yours as well please so we can see the colours? :)

Max, thanks for that - mine isn't cased so maybe not the same origins. I don't (yet) have Fire & Sea (another one for the wishlist!), but thanks for the reference.  :)
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Ivo on July 19, 2008, 01:01:46 PM
one picture of same item in grey; I think I also have it in purple and in light blue. It is unlikely to be Randsfjord; we see this bowl quite regularly on the markets and it must have enjoyed a considerable distribution at the time. Which points at Sklo Union, Poland or Weisswasser.
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: flying free on July 19, 2008, 05:40:41 PM
eek - am incapable of posting pics - techno dinosaur and very embarrassed - so sorry
... the slightly paler amber one looks I think just like the one you posted.  Has a flat edge round the top as yours seems to?, the darker amber (only slightly darker but it definitely is) has the one 'ridge' running round the top edge.  The bottom is heavily indented on both but when you look down into the bowl the rings you see are different.  They are not cased and am sure they are the same as yours.  Once I get my act together and have more time I will try and post some pics.
m
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on July 19, 2008, 09:27:06 PM
No worries, it's not urgent. :)  We do have a help and how to post for posting pics to the board - you might find that useful for when you want to give it a try. Or if you get totally stuck you can always shout for help and one of us will come & rescue you. :) 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: flying free on July 19, 2008, 09:34:17 PM
thank you Anne.  I'm trying not to be a pain   :-[  hence my reticence on asking anyone else to post them for me (after Christine very kindly posted the candleholder) and I do recognise that I am unlikely to get any assistance on the two pieces I am desperate to learn more about unless I LEARN to do this ;D.

m
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: flying free on July 19, 2008, 10:17:39 PM
There is an emerald green one listed on ebay at the moment under Czech glass.  I think it is the same.
m
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on July 30, 2008, 02:14:05 AM
Yup it is, and your amber one looks just fine too. ;)
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: flying free on July 30, 2008, 08:27:45 AM
Thank you so much for posting the pic Anne :)  I really appreciate it.
It's very frustrating not being able to post my own.  I'm going to  have another attempt at working out how to resize them this evening. 
I love this little bowl...but so does a friend and I suspect it may be leaving me as a Christmas present   ::)
m
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Ursa_major on December 31, 2008, 05:04:11 PM
Sorry as a newcomer I'm not sure if this was finally resolved or not. A learned person has suggested Sklo Union, possibly Jurnikl but I can find no reference in Marcus's book. I have an identical blue one
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Sklounion on December 31, 2008, 06:19:24 PM
Still unidentified, and a similar item, a candlestick of triangular shape is known by Hanus, from Jablonecke Sklo. However that appears to have a decorated base/base-well.

Regards,

Marcus
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Ursa_major on December 31, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
OK Thanks
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne E.B. on January 02, 2009, 04:43:37 PM
I've spotted one on the web recently described as Nazeing - ???  I know nothing about Nazeing glass though, except that I think they made those
larger rounded 'triangular' posy bowls.
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on January 02, 2009, 08:32:04 PM
Hmmm I'd be very surprised if they were, Anne.
Title: Triangular Blue bowl - ID = Zabkowice
Post by: yesvil on September 08, 2010, 11:55:08 AM
Looked but I can't identify this one, although it's quite simple.

Height 50mm (Max)

Width 120mm (Max)


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skillkraft/4954297995/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skillkraft/4954889128/in/photostream/

Thanks for any help ~Adam
Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: Nemmie on September 08, 2010, 12:06:15 PM
Yes Czech, Sklo union known as a harlequin bowl.

Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: yesvil on September 08, 2010, 12:14:37 PM
Yes Czech, Sklo union known as a harlequin bowl.



Thanks Nemmie - found a few now.
Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: flying free on September 08, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
ooh thanks Nemmie.  I wasn't aware this had been id'd so it's good to know :)

m
Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: Nemmie on September 08, 2010, 12:43:49 PM
Well I can't find them in the catalogues but I have them in my notes as being Sklo union, not sure where I got that information from at the moment but I know the harlequin name is used on Ebay.

Maybe Jindrich can give more precise information.

Edit: It seems that I am wrong again, well probably right about Czech but wrong about Sklo union. There is a thread here where they are discussed http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22030.0.html Mod: merged into this topic,
 see previous posts


I wear orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected.

Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: Jindra8526 on September 08, 2010, 01:34:19 PM
This is Czechoslovakian piece, Jablonecke sklo n.p., designed by Václav Hanuš

Possibly mistaken for Sklo Union piece from Rosice, designed by Jiří­ Brabec, see picture.

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo

(note please that at my web you have got access to Glasrevue s (CGR) since 1956)
Title: Re: Blue bowl - Czech?
Post by: yesvil on September 08, 2010, 01:52:51 PM
Thank you Jindrich.
Title: Re: Blue bowl
Post by: Frank on July 01, 2011, 11:48:57 PM
Jindrich, do you have the reference please?
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: JohnM on October 12, 2017, 02:44:12 AM
The dish appears to be Polish. It is described as an ashtray in the 1971 Zabkowice catalogue which can be accessed via the pressglas-korrespondenz website :

https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/archiv/pdf/pk-2013-3w-01-mb-zabko-1971-pressglas.pdf

Scroll down to page 28 - Item 2301. The candleholder can be seen on page 31 of the pdf. The ashtray is specifically attributed to Jan Sylwester Drost at this site :

https://desa.pl/pl/search/available%3Fq%3DHuta%20Szk%C5%82a%20Gospodarczego%20%22Z%C4%85bkowice%22%20w%20D%C4%85browie%20G%C3%B3rniczej
Title: Re: Blue bowl
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 12, 2017, 09:21:54 AM
I know this is old but it got referred to elsewhere. (Mod: merged into this topic now) The bowl Jindrich cites is completely different: his has four "sides", the OP's has three!!
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: JohnM on October 13, 2017, 09:38:46 AM
In May/June of this year Lublin hosted an exhibition of the work of Jan Sylwester Drost and his wife Eryka Trewik-Drost. The link below gives us some pictures.

http://heliotropvintage.pl/2017/05/wystawa-szkla-drostow-w-lublinie/

The 1st picture includes Jan Drost. The 3rd picture shows two copies of the glass ashtray which is the subject of this thread.
Title: Re: Blue bowl
Post by: Anne on October 15, 2017, 01:38:08 AM
Christine, yes, Jindrich says the OP one is Václav Hanuš and he posted the image of the other Jiří­ Brabec one to show the difference between them, I think, as some folks confuse the two designs?
Title: Re: Blue bowl
Post by: Anne on October 15, 2017, 01:47:09 AM
In another post the maker of the triangular one is claimed to be Polish, with catalogue evidence in support, so we need to reclassify these.

Quote from: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22030.msg367253.html#msg367253
The dish appears to be Polish. It is described as an ashtray in the 1971 Zabkowice catalogue which can be accessed via the pressglas-korrespondenz website :

https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/archiv/pdf/pk-2013-3w-01-mb-zabko-1971-pressglas.pdf

Scroll down to page 28 - Item 2301.
Title: Re: Green (or green grey) triangular dish
Post by: Anne on October 15, 2017, 01:49:49 AM
Given the catalogue evidence and the exhibition photos I am happy to reclassify these as Zabkowice, thanks JohnM, these have been a puzzle for quite some time.