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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: inca on December 12, 2009, 01:32:58 AM

Title: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: inca on December 12, 2009, 01:32:58 AM
Hi,

I bought this lovely goblet recently.

Height 20 cm, weight 337g

I know nothing about it, and would appreciate any information I can get, thanks!

Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: inca on December 12, 2009, 01:34:22 AM
Some more pictures ...

Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: inca on December 12, 2009, 03:10:53 AM
... one more picture.  ;)

Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: johnphilip on December 12, 2009, 07:52:06 AM
It looks typical Saviati in my mind . jp  nice one
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: TxSilver on December 12, 2009, 01:29:04 PM
The dragon doesn't have the detail of most Barovier/Salviati dragon pieces I have seen. The latticino is lovely, though. It is a beautiful goblet. I originally thought that the goblet might be a more recent piece, but the label is older. I don't know which companies used this stock label. I hope we can track it down.
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: TxSilver on December 12, 2009, 01:41:18 PM
I have to add that the eyes remind me of the ones used by Fratelli Toso and Salviati for many of their pieces. If no one here knows, a good person to ask about the goblet would be Sheldon Barr. His contact information is on the Gardner-Barr site at http://www.gardnerandbarr.com/.
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: tam bam on December 12, 2009, 06:40:27 PM
Anita, I seem to be thinking in sinc with you today for some reason.  I saw this guy on the Fossilfly forum this morning and thought to myself FT.  I think the boldness of the colors and the eyes remind me so much of them and even the dragon design reminds me of FT.  I am glad to see we are on the same page.  I think it is a newer piece as well.  I really love the dragon on it.  His eyes really catch your attention. 

**THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION AND I AM NO EXPERT BY ALL MEANS**

tam bam
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: TxSilver on December 12, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
From the label I would guess 1940s-early 1950s. I hope we can get an expert opinion soon.
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: inca on December 12, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
Thank you for your replies.

I've been thinking about the latticino.
From what I've seen (when I've googled) is quite often, that the pink ribbons have aventurine outlining, and I've never seen these white strands within the pink ribbons.

Is this unusual?



Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: soledivo on December 13, 2009, 05:30:10 AM
hopefully Alex will pop in an have a look at this,

I know the label gives it age but my 1st thought was its a repro.
then looking again is it isn't it ?, i've not seen that colour,
the quality looks high,

What ever the answer, i'd love to have myself,   :chky:
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: Artofvenice on December 24, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
Hi guys,
at least 20 master glassmakers can be the blower during the last 20 years...
Easier for me to say who is not the right person:
Not Fuin, not Carlo Tosi, not Ballarin, not Mattiello, not Tiozzo, not Orfeo, not Vio, not Elite, not Gianni Seguso.
For sure the "final touch" is not of these guys...

Dino Tagliapietra streched very similar glass canes...
I just suppose that it was blown with his canes.
Also there is a nephew of Davide Fuin (same family name), working inside Cam factory who can be the glassblower...

Sincerely

Alex
www.artofvenice.com (http://www.artofvenice.com)
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: tam bam on December 24, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
You are so very wise, Alex!  :thup:

tam bam
Title: Re: id please for Murano dragon goblet
Post by: inca on December 27, 2009, 03:49:38 AM
Alex,

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate this very much.  :thup: