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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: insaneprofessor on December 20, 2005, 01:24:15 PM

Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 20, 2005, 01:24:15 PM
I've just collected lots of glass stuff I liked over  the years, I don't really know very much about it

I'm wondering if this piece (an ashtray?) is Murano and if so from which decade

also, while it has no chips or cracks, it has numerous small scratches on it and has obviously been well used.  Does this mean I shouldn't really bother auctioning it?

I've got friends who'd like it as a present and if it's not really worth anything I'll give it away

thanks again

Louise :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/loulou777/muranoashtray1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/loulou777/muranoashtraybase.jpg)
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Ivo on December 20, 2005, 03:24:22 PM
It looks like Murano, doesn' t it - but I think this is actually Bohemian, made at Chrbska and sold under the Bohemia label some time during eighties. A very similar vessel in clear, green and brown designed by L. Palecek in '76 was produced at Skrdlovice - I think designs wandered around the various factories.
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 21, 2005, 11:22:44 AM
Thank Ivo

Not what I wanted to hear but I appreciate your help

one last picture, just in case the rubbish pictures earlier were misleading (just  me being in denial :roll:  :D  )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/loulou777/nicetings008.jpg)
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Ivo on December 21, 2005, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: "insaneprofessor"

Not what I wanted to hear...


 :?:  :?:  :?:  Murano goooood - Bohemian baaaaad  :?:  :?:  :?:
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 21, 2005, 12:30:56 PM
Quote from: "Ivo"
Quote from: "insaneprofessor"

Not what I wanted to hear...


 :?:  :?:  :?:  Murano goooood - Bohemian baaaaad  :?:  :?:  :?:


I thought so
Is it not so?
I really honestly know very little about glass, I've just picked up things I liked here and there and I need to buy a film camera so I'm selling years of accumulated stuff
I thought that Murano was 'better' than Bohemian  
from your post I suppose that this isn't the case
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Ivo on December 21, 2005, 01:57:58 PM
I declare the glass pecking order discussion *open*
 :D
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Leni on December 21, 2005, 04:12:44 PM
I guess if you collect Murano glass and you buy a piece which turns out to be Bohemian you'll be disappointed.

Likewise, if you collect Bohemian and the piece turns out to be Murano ......

It's not so much a question of 'better' or 'worse', more of expectations, IMHO.
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Max on December 21, 2005, 05:10:58 PM
Louise said:
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I've got friends who'd like it as a present and if it's not really worth anything I'll give it away


That made me chuckle!  :lol:

Maybe the best glass to keep from your collection is what you like.  Whether it's Bohemian or Murano isn't so important if you enjoy looking at it.

I wouldn't have guessed this was Bohemian...I was thinking it was maybe Scandinavian  :roll:  thanks for the ID Ivo.   :)

PS:  Personally, I think it's a lovely shape.  :D
PPS:  Could you resize your pics before putting them on the board please?  They make my screen go all wonky!
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 21, 2005, 05:56:06 PM
Sorry

pic resized  :)
 
I like glass but I desperately need a) space and b) a film camera.  

I like glass and I like nice things but I like film cameras more  :wink:

I've sold things on ebay for a fraction of what I thought they were worth and I'd rather give stuff away to friends than sell it for peanuts.

The friends I have in mind who might like the ashtray have a funky groovy retro flat so for them they would love it.  They’re not connoisseurs of glass, they just like funky retro looking stuff.  They also smoke (yuk) so would have some practical use for the thing.  Smoking makes me feel ill and ashtrays are of no use to me.    

I also don’t want any complications or problems due to complaints about condition so I’m in 2 minds as to whether or not to sell it.
 :?
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: Max on December 21, 2005, 07:01:27 PM
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I also don’t want any complications or problems due to complaints about condition so I’m in 2 minds as to whether or not to sell it.


That's a good point.  Once you say there's damage, you can kiss a decent price goodbye.  Personally, I don't mind having damaged glass if it means I can get a nice piece that I wouldn't normally be able to afford!  :D

...and I have a vase that has a totally smashed upper rim, but I just turn that to the back and hope no-one notices.  :wink:   :lol:

Thanks for re-sizing your pics, are they 858x538 now, or is it just my computer?  For viewing on the board, they shouldn't be more than approximately 300x300 or similar, as any than that pushes the sides of the board out and you can't read the thread easily.  :(

Welcome the board btw!
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: paradisetrader on December 21, 2005, 09:28:29 PM
Yes its Czech as Ivo says. I have seen quite a lot in the pale pink & pale blue colorway recently, though I didn't know it was by Chribska. That doesnt surprise me too much and I like it better than most Chribska, a lot of which I'm not keen on.

InsaneP, you must be if you think that Czech is necessarily less desirable than Murano but the story is long and complex. In short both Murano and Czechoslovakia / Bohemia have very long traditions of glassmaking stretching back hundreds of years and both places have made glass from the very best to the very worst and back again.

I doin't think it's obviously an ashtray ....depends on size partly.
Whats wrong with the condition of it ?

PS Javier - This needs to be moved to the main Glass forum.
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 21, 2005, 09:54:09 PM
I'm really not hugely knowledgable about glass.  I'm also blonde so give me a break eh? LOL

It has a few scratches, nothing you'd notice unless you scrutinised it very close up.  Because the scatches are tiny they're hard to photograph and I always get anxious if I'm selling anything and I can't clearly show any damage.  If it had just one or 2 I'd mention it but as there are a few I just started to feel concerend and disappointed as I examined it closely.

It's been at the back of a cupboard for years and I remembered it as a wonderous thing so it was a bit upsetting for me to see so many little scratches.  

I'll try to get some close ups, I'm not sure if I can do it with the shots I have but I'd appreciate feedback as to how bad it is.

thanks again

Louise :)
Title: Is this Murano glass?
Post by: insaneprofessor on December 21, 2005, 10:05:00 PM
hmmm
I can't get eany decent close ups
I'll look at it again in good light tomorrow and try to get some decent shots
thanks again

Louise :)