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Title: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 01, 2011, 06:32:31 PM
I just thought this bud vase might be Gullaskruf, perhaps by Arthur Percy. It's quite light only 8 1/4 ozs . Approx 25cm in height. Very well finished around the mouth of the neck .I think the colour might be Cobalt Blue.  Thanks for having a look !
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 01, 2011, 07:26:49 PM
I don't think these ones are Gullaskruf, which have much more tapered and slightly longer (in proportion to the rest of the bottle) necks.
I've got a pale blue (cased over white) one, like yours, and a deep red one with a big round dent in it. I'm digging in the most remote areas of long lost memories, I've seen one with a label (can't remember if it's mine or not) I think it might have been Alsterfors - but I may be completely wrong. I'm afraid mine are all packed away, I've not a clue which box they're in either.
I don't call these bud vases, bud vases have round, often solid, glass bottoms, often with bubbles in.
These are long-necked bottles or flasks.
However, Pat (Bubbles) might be able to tell you if these are ever described as bud vases. Pat's the Bud Vase Lady. :thup:
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 01, 2011, 07:52:53 PM
Thanks very much Sue,

Thank goodness you have changed your name back...you know for one split-second I thought you were serious !  :wsh:  ;)

Goodness me I really thought it was a bud vase !....back to the drawing board again. I get away from the drawing board for a few minutes ..and then I'm back there  !! :bsh: ::)

I assume this is thinly blown lead crystal glass. It certainly isn't cased. I don't think a Cobalt blue would have come in any other type of glass but I may be talking a load of tribble...sorry twaddle  :D

Coming from Bristol I thought it might be Bristol Blue but there is real age to the base and a whole pile of dust inside which could only have got there over a longish period of time. Cheers, Mike.


 
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 01, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
I'm sure bud vase have much smaller bottoms.

I have a bit of a "thing" about bottles this shape (not the moretti satinised ones though). They remind me of volumetric flasks used in labs - I used to work in labs, I loved volumetric flasks, they're so elegant - and they're such a fantastic design for doing what they do, so well. (*nostalgic sigh*)
I had a massive olive green Gullaskruf one.
Michael dropped a heavy copper lobster (bottle opener) on it. Bye-bye beautiful bottle! :cry:

I do think these are more likely to be soda glass than crystal. Cobalt does colour soda glass blue. Honest!
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 01, 2011, 08:31:42 PM
Thanks Sue,

It is definately soda glass then ! Far too light for lead crystal ...this rules out Bristol Blue !

Here is a profile shot which shows an asymmetery from only one view . I am assuming this is deliberate and might give a design clue  ! or not.. !
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 01, 2011, 08:44:17 PM
I can see it's triangular :thup:

I think, though my description wasn't clear  :-[ - when I said the Gullaskruf necks were "more tapered", I meant they were far slimmer at the top - the neck itself is not far off being straight - not "widely" flared like this one is.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: flying free on February 01, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
could it be Elme perhaps?  I have a couple of Elme vases that are similar, one flattened, one triangular but they are cased over white and a paler turquoisy gradiated blue.
The shape just reminded me of them though.
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Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 01, 2011, 08:59:58 PM
Cheers Sue,

It is triangular but the triangle isn't an equilateral one. Hence the asymmetery. If you look at the shot of the base you can see it there too. It's subtle, that is why I hope it was intended and might give a clue ! I've now measured it and it is near enough equilateral so I take this last statement back ! Sorry ! :-[

P.S. Cheers M I will look on the internet for examples.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: glassobsessed on February 01, 2011, 10:34:21 PM
Way to big for a bud vase, you could stick a branch in there. ;D

I would look to Italy, maybe Empoli, reminds me of this triangular 'Alrose' vase with a white spiral: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31712.msg172331.html#msg172331

John
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 01, 2011, 11:00:18 PM
Thanks John,

Here are some Gullaskruf vases  :huh: I found at 20thC Glass . None of which have a triangular shape ....but some of the necks are similar .

   http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/scandinavian_glass/gullaskruf_glass/gullaskrufglass_home.html

I'm not so sure about Italy....there again I thought It could be from Bristol !  :24:  ::)
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Ivo on February 02, 2011, 07:12:50 AM
I agree to either Elme or Empoli and tend toward the latter. The triangular shape with the long neck was popular in the sixties, Nason did a Corroso version of it. The colour is plain blue, but not cobalt.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: cjf on February 02, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
Here are some Gullaskruf vases  :huh: I found at 20thC Glass . None of which have a triangular shape ....but some of the necks are similar .

   http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/scandinavian_glass/gullaskruf_glass/gullaskrufglass_home.html

I would recommend against using this list for attributing Gullaskruf bud vases. I have collected Gullaskruf glass for quite some time now, and have about 20 Arthur Percy bud vases that I am sure of, but I would say that perhaps only one or two of these are actually from Gullaskruf. Not only are the proportions wrong, most of the colors shown on the page were never even used at Gullaskruf, so most of these are probably from one of the other glass works that produced similar vases (e.g. ├ůseda, Elme or perhaps Lindshammar).

As regards the triangular one, you see quite a lot of these in Sweden, and I believe that I have seen some with Elme labels.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 02, 2011, 10:17:17 AM
 :hi:
Hi cjf, can you tell me if I'm correct in thinking the Gullaskruf ones are the ones with rather narrow rims and an elegant, sweeping transition between the bottom and the neck, rather than a very round bottom with the neck sitting on top?
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: cjf on February 02, 2011, 07:19:42 PM
Well, it is a bit difficult to put it into words, especially for a non native speaker, but in general terms I would agree. I would also hazard to guess that 99% of the bud vases produced at Gullaskruf was in one of their standard colors, which are those depicted below with the addition of clear and opaline glass.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: Baked_Beans on February 02, 2011, 09:04:37 PM
Thanks very much everyone for all your help. I'm sorry I got a bit confused on this one . You have all been so helpful ! Ta, Mike.
Title: Re: Dark blue (cobalt ?) bud vase , could it possibly be by Gullaskruf ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 03, 2011, 11:42:55 AM
 :)
Thank-you very much, cjf.
That set of colours is very useful indeed.  :thup: :thup: :thup:

I'm now a little more in doubt about whether my broken (by copper lobster) one was Gullaskruf after all - it was the right shape, but it was a lovely olive green. I still miss it, no matter what it was. :cry:
Hey-ho.