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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: familytree-llc on February 24, 2011, 02:23:53 AM

Title: Glass Bull - Cenedese?
Post by: familytree-llc on February 24, 2011, 02:23:53 AM
Back again already with a second piece of Italian glass. I could be wrong but I think it is Cenedese.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/1/8/0/webimg/451622933_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/1/8/0/webimg/451622968_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/1/8/0/webimg/451623000_o.jpg
Title: Re: Glass Bull - Cenedese?
Post by: TxSilver on February 24, 2011, 03:58:31 AM
I knew I had seen this bull before. I had to track it down. According to Rago Arts, it is Cenedese. Here is their Live Auctioneers page: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/28263. Their bull is unmaked, but I think their attribution is correct. Rago is normally very good at attributions. Very, very nice bull. Love it!
Title: Re: Glass Bull - Cenedese?
Post by: svazzo on March 03, 2011, 08:53:23 AM
I believe the one you have is actually Livio Seguso, not Cenedese.
I have seen this same one signed before in European auctions.

Also, I believe the one at the Rago auction link is Salviati, not Cenedese.
I have had a few of them in different shapes with the Salviati label.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Glass Bull - Cenedese?
Post by: tam bam on March 03, 2011, 03:19:24 PM
After looking at the bull several times I have to agree with Javier (Sorry Anita).  The bull's color reminds me of Livio Seguso and also the style.  It may even be made in Germany for Gral Glashutte, but without seeing another with a label on it, I couldn't say for sure.  Very nice bull.  Javier mentions he has seen some with Salviati labels so that also leads me to believe Livio made them for Salviati.  I have noticed that a lot of Livio's animals designs from Salviati and Gral can look the same.  If anything, I would place my bets on Livio Seguso as the glass master.   

tam bam
Title: Re: Glass Bull - Cenedese?
Post by: TxSilver on March 03, 2011, 09:52:03 PM
No need to apologize, Tami. :) I simply found the Rago bull. After looking again, the base does look different. I would go with what Javier wrote since he knows the bulls. I also wondered if Livio might have made the Salviati bulls when I read what Javier wrote.