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Title: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 13, 2011, 11:51:47 PM
 :hi: and  :X: :X:

I just got these and I am hoping that they are Murano Glass Lamps.  Found a Pair, with shades.  Looks like Murano to me.  The Colors are Pink with bubbles and (of course) silver flecks of foil inside them.

Did I do OK?  I am  :X:  that I lucked out!!!

Base is on Brushed Brass looking base.  One the end of the cords has the real old brown round end to it.  I have not searched to much yet, just gave them a wipe down and took the pics as I was Soo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Excited to find these  :chky: :chky: :chky:

Any ideas on the Maker, the year -- and I do hope that they are  :X: Murano !!!! 

Will post some more pics after of the shades, and the cord end....and anything I can see on them.  Some Pics with flash, and without flash...I think they are from the 60's era...

Thanks   :kissy:

Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: flying free on April 13, 2011, 11:55:28 PM
they are absolutely stunning  :hiclp:
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Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: TxSilver on April 14, 2011, 04:28:10 AM
Look Murano to me. But I'm keeping the secret about who did them.  :P

Just kidding. I don't know who did them. Maybe Barovier?? They are beautiful. I know you're going to enjoy your lighting a lot more now.
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 14, 2011, 06:33:24 AM
Nice one Rose, well done  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 14, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
 :thud:
They're pink and I love them despite that!  :wsh:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: flying free on April 14, 2011, 09:55:15 AM
Rose I love those bases they are on as well - really gorgeous pieces.  I take it you have looked on the Swank lighting site?  They have some lovely pieces.
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Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: dinklepip on April 14, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
scrummy
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 14, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
 :hi: and still  :chky:

I hope you do not mind IF I post more pics -- as it is not everyday one gets to hold, and examine so closely something like this.  Plus it helps to date (I hope) and figure out maybe who made them. These are the shades that came with them, so I am *assuming* that they might be the original ones -- but unsure ???

Yes, I am still excited -- and Voila, they WORK... :thup:

Here are some more pics...
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: pamela on April 14, 2011, 04:41:37 PM
Congratulations, Rose!
Normally not my cup of tea, but these are in fact beautiful!

Now, as they have arrived safe and sound, would you consider to delete the earlier pictures, if they weren't yours? Just a thought  :sm:

again:  :hiclp:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 14, 2011, 04:48:14 PM
Congratulations, Rose!
Normally not my cup of tea, but these are in fact beautiful!

Now, as they have arrived safe and sound, would you consider to delete the earlier pictures, if they weren't yours? Just a thought  :sm:

again:  :hiclp:

Hi there:
All the Pictures are Mine, I did not use anyone Photos.  All photos taken here, and Posted on Site are Mine.   Some with a White back ground, and some on the Floor. Nope all my pictures.  I did not use anyones pics at all. 

That is why I posted in the Cafe I had a Secret, as I wanted to say about it, and point you to *their pics* but I did not.  I waited till they arrived here yesterday.

All photos are taken by me in my home.... :-\ :cry:  I am the Photographer of all Pics !
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: pamela on April 14, 2011, 04:52:33 PM
Ohh Rose, please forgive me  :ooh: I understood from your Secret Thread that you would only lift it after their arrival; but liked an attribution while they were still on their way to you...
Again, I beg to apologize to my misunderstanding and misinterpret.. :pb:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 14, 2011, 04:59:03 PM
Ohh Rose, please forgive me  :ooh: I understood from your Secret Thread that you would only lift it after their arrival; but liked an attribution while they were still on their way to you...
Again, I beg to apologize to my misunderstanding and misinterpret.. :pb:

 :kissy: :kissy: 

That is Okay -- that is what my Secret was.  I had purchased them, they were on their way here -- was afraid I might jinx myself before they got here IF I said anything at all......so that was why I was MUM in my Secret.  I just got them yesterday, and glad they arrived Safe and Sound.  Nothing Broken !!!

No, I always post my own pics -- whether good, or bad pics.....lol  :24:  :pb:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: rosieposie on April 14, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
Beautiful Rose,  really beautiful treasure....I am having a few days away in Devon, but had to sign in to see what your secret was....I wonder if they are Barovier Toso...you have every reason to be very very pleased indeed.  :kissy:
Rosie. :sun:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 14, 2011, 10:33:10 PM
Beautiful Rose,  really beautiful treasure....I am having a few days away in Devon, but had to sign in to see what your secret was....I wonder if they are Barovier Toso...you have every reason to be very very pleased indeed.  :kissy:
Rosie. :sun:

Thanks Rosie... ;)

Here is a pic of the Plug in, and a Name on the Electrical stuff.  Not sure if that will help at all -- but maybe in dating it.  Oh, and the bottom of the felt pad was torn, so I torn back it a tiny bit more --- but the dust under there  :24: there has to be some Age to these.  Lots of Silver Flecks in the glass too.....

Sorry for using the *D* word here -- but I had to show you this too...... :thud: 
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 15, 2011, 04:39:40 AM
Look Murano to me. But I'm keeping the secret about who did them.  :P

Just kidding. I don't know who did them. Maybe Barovier?? They are beautiful. I know you're going to enjoy your lighting a lot more now.

 :hi:

Going by what TxSilver stated (Thanks for the suggestion/direction) -- I did find a similar looking pair, maybe??  No price shown there, and states 1940's era there (??)

Here is the link: http://vandm.com/Barovier_and_Toso_Murano_Glass_Lamps (http://vandm.com/Barovier_and_Toso_Murano_Glass_Lamps)

So what are your thoughts on that?  Thanks

Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 15, 2011, 06:27:24 AM
Interesting they don't give a price; as my Mother always said, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Leni on April 15, 2011, 09:17:43 AM
as my Mother always said, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."

LOL!  ;D That's what my mother always said as well, Christine!  :24:

Rose I would say they do look very like the Barovier ones, especially the style of the bases!  :hiclp:   :X:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 15, 2011, 05:34:17 PM
Thanks all  :kissy: :kissy:

That is the Closest example I have found so far -- but still looking.  To have these - are a Dream Come True for Me.  Never did I imagine I would find any -- less a matched Pair.   Good to here that everyone is leaning towards Barovier  :thup: :thup:

Yes I am still  :chky: , and in LOVE with them!!
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Carolyn Preston on April 16, 2011, 12:53:25 AM
LOL!  ;D That's what my mother always said as well, Christine!  :24:

Rose I would say they do look very like the Barovier ones, especially the style of the bases!  :hiclp:   :X:

Sisters!  :rah: That's what my mum used to say!  :chky:

Carolyn
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 16, 2011, 08:58:42 AM
Still looking around, to see IF I can find a base like it, or lamps like it.....but so far Only found this:

??? Brass Base similar Click Here  (http://ttp://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/425925)

I think I have doubled (or tripled) my $$ -- but not for sale.....lol.....No Way

A good investment I think for the Price !!
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Alfies Dad on April 17, 2011, 02:02:22 PM
Hi Rose, have you looked at this one, not identical but very similar. google (20thcenturyglass.com)  then search Barovier & Toso...
the site won't let me post a link due to copyright.

Robert.
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: tam bam on April 18, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Sorry folks,  I am still in left field when it comes to these lamps because of the silver used.  I still place my bets on AVeM or Galliano Ferro, both made a ton of lamps.  Galliano Ferro still produces lighting but on more of a larger level.  They just speak Ferro to me, but I can't confirm it without seeing one with a label on it.  Both AVeM & GF produced incredible lamps in the mid century.  Rose, your very lucky to have two.   :hiclp:

tam bam
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 18, 2011, 06:15:14 PM
Sorry folks,  I am still in left field when it comes to these lamps because of the silver used.  I still place my bets on AVeM or Galliano Ferro, both made a ton of lamps.  Galliano Ferro still produces lighting but on more of a larger level.  They just speak Ferro to me, but I can't confirm it without seeing one with a label on it.  Both AVeM & GF produced incredible lamps in the mid century.  Rose, your very lucky to have two.   :hiclp:

tam bam

Thanks tam bam:

I will drop them a Note to see if they can help at all.  The PINK screams the 50's to me, IMHO (I think)...and Yes, Thank God I have a Pair.  I was so afraid one might get broke in Shipping, but IF it did -- I was prepared then to only have the one (even at that Price).  Again, Thank God they both arrived safe.  Probably because the box was bigger, it was always moved along the way by just lifting, and standing it on the bottom.  Not like smaller parcels that can get thrown around.....lol.

yes, I am in Seventh heaven here  :chky:.  Never thought I would end up with some Lamps, and a Pair. 

I have to Thank my son for helping me obtain these too.  Thanks Son!!! :kissy:  Love ya 

He knows his Mom likes Glass
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: tam bam on April 18, 2011, 06:43:00 PM
You have a very good son, Rose.  I found this lamp.  The base is a little different but I wanted to show it to you anyway.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/avem-barovier-mid-century-murano-glass-lamp

tam bam
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: ardy on April 18, 2011, 09:08:56 PM
Lovely things but beyond that - DON'T YOU JUST LOVE A BARGAIN????

It has been my downfall on a couple of pieces I wish I had stumped up more for and won them.

I always have trouble with lamps as several look similar, here is something else from my man(at least that's the claim) to add to the confusion.

http://1stdibs.com/furniture_item_detail.php?id=326083

Following on from this link I found this site with a pair of blue alexandrite Murano lamps for $5,600 - I think I will take them. But not just yet, I have to totally renovate the house to accommodate them - I don't think.

http://www.145antiques.com/html/index.html
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 20, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
You have a very good son, Rose.  I found this lamp.  The base is a little different but I wanted to show it to you anyway.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/avem-barovier-mid-century-murano-glass-lamp

tam bam

Also just found this one today a Barovier (pink glass) lamp (one only) with Silver Flakes in it too  * HERE *  (http://cgi.ebay.com/Murano-Italian-Art-Glass-Lamp-Barovier-Toso-/270738091235?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item3f093f6ce3)

Mind you it has no label -- but there is a Note that that some other like at some other sale......if that makes any difference....lol ??

 :-\
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: tam bam on April 20, 2011, 03:57:20 PM
Whoa!  The seller seems to be very optimistic about the price for one lamp.  I wonder where the seller got the idea the lamps originally sold for $3900 (I bet I can guess and if I am right, it is not a reliable source to info or price ideas).  Anyway, the lamp is gorgeous but I bet there will not be many takers because of the price.  Rose, you on the other hand really got a deal.   

tam bam
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 21, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
Hi there;

Where would I email to for ask about Avem as a Maker? 

I might drop them a line too.  Yeah, if anything - I got a Deal on these, but would be nice to find out who made them.

I was thinking (oh NO  :thud: ) but I really do not want to take them apart -- but maybe under the bottom wide glass piece where it joins the brass -- there could be something.  But I really do not want to even search under there to see, and on top of that...it would just be a gamble anyways.

 :-\ :spls:

Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 25, 2011, 06:19:04 AM
...And Last but not least.

One Man's Trash (on Sale, and on Clearance) - is another One treasure !!!!  ;D 

They were kind enough to send along the Tickets Sign Price from them.......lol
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 14, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
(http://www.gifanimations.com/GA/Image/Animations/Smiley-Faces/smiley_010.gif) HEY, yes I am shouting this time ...... :24:

Here is the Exact Same lamps as mine (even the bases) but  in Blue.   They are exact (shades different) but glass, Silver flecks, base ALL the same

  :chky:   Click HERE  :chky:    (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vintage-Italian-Murano-Art-Glass-Lamps-Caribbean-Blue-/230621126715?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item35b217203b)

Alas, no label on them either....
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 17, 2011, 01:46:06 AM
(http://www.gifanimations.com/GA/Image/Animations/Smiley-Faces/smiley_010.gif) HEY, yes I am shouting this time ...... :24:

Here is the Exact Same lamps as mine (even the bases) but  in Blue.   They are exact (shades different) but glass, Silver flecks, base ALL the same

  :chky:   Click HERE  :chky:    (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vintage-Italian-Murano-Art-Glass-Lamps-Caribbean-Blue-/230621126715?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item35b217203b)

Alas, no label on them either....



I see that there are 59 watchers on these lamps like mine (except in Blue).   Is anyone here watching, or going to bid?   Right now they are the *Top* Item of the Most watched items for Murano.  Ends on Thursday.

Kinda neat....
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: ardy on May 17, 2011, 07:13:59 AM
I am watching them but won't bid. If they were AS I might consider it!!!!

Beautiful lamps hope they make lots of money (as I am not bidding) :X:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: rosieposie on May 19, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
I hope you are all watching....it is very exciting!!

Are you watching Rose????? :X:
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 20, 2011, 12:57:12 AM
I hope you are all watching....it is very exciting!!

Are you watching Rose????? :X:

 :phew:   :sick:   :cheers:  Exciting !!!!

yes, I was watching right to the very end.   :hiclp:


There were 11 bids with the final bid of $ 1,075.01 for those same lamps like mine.  Yes, it was very exciting !!! So I guess I have a rough guess what mine are worth......and even know they *Great Deal* I got on mine.  So that was SO exciting to watch, the old heart can not take it LOL


Those lamps on Ebay -- Did they ever say they worked (I just wondered) as I did not see anything, or any questions about it.   I hope  :X: they do, but even so.....I imagine new stuff could easily be added
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: rosieposie on May 20, 2011, 08:56:44 AM
I watched until Midnight, then I turned into a Pumpkin!!!! :24: :24:

I am thrilled for you Rose. :kissy: Yours will be even more special now!
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on November 14, 2011, 11:22:31 AM

Just adding this Link as a reference as I found some other matching ones to mine here tonight HERE, same lamps $3,500.00 (http://www.primegalleryllc.com/store/furniture_item_detail.php?id=567422)

It says there that they have been re-fixed with double-nickel bases, and fixtures...which adds to the Price too.  I am just adding this as a Reference point to this post, as it does say there 1950's also......but I know that is not a positive ID. but helps in re-affirming our thoughts here.

Thanks  :wsh:  will get lost now   LOL

Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: wolkenreb on November 14, 2011, 03:33:49 PM
Hi Rose.  I've been enjoying reading this unravelling thread!  The link in your last post gives me a message 'server not found'.  Don't know if that's my problem or something to do with the link?
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on November 14, 2011, 07:06:49 PM
Hi Rose.  I've been enjoying reading this unravelling thread!  The link in your last post gives me a message 'server not found'.  Don't know if that's my problem or something to do with the link?

Whoops must have did something wrong....it was found on old stuff on that site 1stdibs.


Try this link here to see if this image works (??) http://www.primegalleryllc.com/archivesE/1stdibs/093011/PrimeGalleryLB_930fixed//10/x.jpg (http://www.primegalleryllc.com/archivesE/1stdibs/093011/PrimeGalleryLB_930fixed//10/x.jpg)  I checked it here, and it now works for me -- this new link added.  Good thing I was able to find it again.

I was just thinking how much *better* the new double plated *silver nickel* looks on these same lamps as mine.  The silver Nickel goes SO Much better with the Glass and silver Flakes in it.  I mean (in a women point of view) the original Gold brass bases do not look as good as the Silver Nickel.

After all, I NEVER mix Silver jewelry with my Gold jewelry --- LOL -- So had to be a Man that made these, IMHO --- LOL  :24:

Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: Birdie on December 30, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
I don't know if they are Murano but I do know they are breath takingly gorgeous!
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on January 06, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
HI

These lamps were typical of the designs produced by Barovier around the turn of the century to the mid 1950s

Dean
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 26, 2016, 07:29:52 AM
Found one with similar metal base and foil inclusion on Ebay that had a label on it of ---- Fratelli Toso.  Just posted here for a F.Y.I.   This one has the Gold inclusions -- Mine have silver


* CLICK HERE *  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-FRATELLI-TOSO-MURANO-GLASS-CORDONATO-LAMP-33-TALL-WITH-LABEL-/351682886426?hash=item51e1eefb1a%3Ag%3AH1oAAOSwLVZV41Hb&nma=true&si=KTticAPFhQU9CBML8GUhD4ECTLs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) and scroll down

So I thought would post as a Reference here.....thanks
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: pamela on May 26, 2016, 07:36:56 AM
Hiya Rose  :) the seller in that listing states SILVER inclusions as well  :D
Title: Re: $63.00 Art Glass Lamp -- Murano ???
Post by: glassobsessed on May 26, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
The label on the Ebay example says AVEM...

John

Example here: https://sites.google.com/site/muranozoo/_/rsrc/1299023158570/useful-links-books/murano-labels/AVeMBirdsBranchLabel.jpg?height=196&width=200